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	<title>Comments on: Of Tweets and TJ and Ghosts of Point Guards Passed But Not Gone</title>
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		<title>By: Pacers Steamroll Clippers</title>
		<link>http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.com/2010/08/of-tweets-and-t-j-and-ghosts-of-point-guards-passed-but-not-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-4147</link>
		<dc:creator>Pacers Steamroll Clippers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] deserves a lot of credit, particularly from me.  This summer, I made it clear that I did not see any use for Ford.  I was clearly wrong.  Ford has performed well as a backup, providing some important veteran [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] deserves a lot of credit, particularly from me.  This summer, I made it clear that I did not see any use for Ford.  I was clearly wrong.  Ford has performed well as a backup, providing some important veteran [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What This Season Means To &#8230; Jim O&#8217;Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>What This Season Means To &#8230; Jim O&#8217;Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 22:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the dirty work for the franchise when Jamaal decided to permanently stick his head up his tuchus.  TJ Ford was really just a way to break up Jermaine O&#8217;Neal&#8217;s contract that could maybe, possibly [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the dirty work for the franchise when Jamaal decided to permanently stick his head up his tuchus.  TJ Ford was really just a way to break up Jermaine O&#8217;Neal&#8217;s contract that could maybe, possibly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Donahue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Donahue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure the Pacers would love to do the Dampier deal, but I can&#039;t see it making any sense for Charlotte.  Their payroll as of today is $78.1mm, or about $7.8mm OVER the luxury tax threshold.  Since I can&#039;t see the Pacers giving up a decent asset - like Rush - just to get rid of Ford, a realistic offer (from the Pacers&#039; side) would be Ford + Dahntay.

The problem is - even if Charlotte liked that deal from a talent perspective (Brown probably would, but I don&#039;t know that Jordan would) - it leaves them stuck over the tax.  If they were to cut Dampier (a certainty if they don&#039;t trade him), their payroll would be about $65mm.  If they trade him for Ford/Dahntay, their payroll would be $76mm.

That payroll would cost them $5.7mm in tax, plus it would mean that they wouldn&#039;t get the distribution of tax money that teams under the tax get (about $3.5mm), plus it would cost them the $11mm in salaries for Ford/Dahntay.  So, the question to Charlotte&#039;s FO is, &quot;Is acquiring Ford plus Dahntay worth the $20+mm (11+5.7+3.5) that it will cost me.&quot;

If I&#039;m sitting in Charlotte, that&#039;s an easy &quot;No&quot; for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure the Pacers would love to do the Dampier deal, but I can&#8217;t see it making any sense for Charlotte.  Their payroll as of today is $78.1mm, or about $7.8mm OVER the luxury tax threshold.  Since I can&#8217;t see the Pacers giving up a decent asset &#8211; like Rush &#8211; just to get rid of Ford, a realistic offer (from the Pacers&#8217; side) would be Ford + Dahntay.</p>
<p>The problem is &#8211; even if Charlotte liked that deal from a talent perspective (Brown probably would, but I don&#8217;t know that Jordan would) &#8211; it leaves them stuck over the tax.  If they were to cut Dampier (a certainty if they don&#8217;t trade him), their payroll would be about $65mm.  If they trade him for Ford/Dahntay, their payroll would be $76mm.</p>
<p>That payroll would cost them $5.7mm in tax, plus it would mean that they wouldn&#8217;t get the distribution of tax money that teams under the tax get (about $3.5mm), plus it would cost them the $11mm in salaries for Ford/Dahntay.  So, the question to Charlotte&#8217;s FO is, &#8220;Is acquiring Ford plus Dahntay worth the $20+mm (11+5.7+3.5) that it will cost me.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m sitting in Charlotte, that&#8217;s an easy &#8220;No&#8221; for me.</p>
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		<title>By: danny riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>danny riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think they can still do the dampier deal and wave him afterwards saving 8.5 mil in cap space makie room for rolle.While also keeping an eye open fora top shelf power forward who might beavailable like josh smith seeing as how atlanta is moving horfold to power forward leaving no place for smith,I would not think they would like to pay 11.7 mil for a backup, but rather use that money on a true center!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they can still do the dampier deal and wave him afterwards saving 8.5 mil in cap space makie room for rolle.While also keeping an eye open fora top shelf power forward who might beavailable like josh smith seeing as how atlanta is moving horfold to power forward leaving no place for smith,I would not think they would like to pay 11.7 mil for a backup, but rather use that money on a true center!</p>
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		<title>By: cordobes</title>
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		<dc:creator>cordobes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 00:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahah, this is a brilliant explanation. Those guys were over-thinking this, he was just reading the Bible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahah, this is a brilliant explanation. Those guys were over-thinking this, he was just reading the Bible.</p>
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		<title>By: PacersAllDay</title>
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		<dc:creator>PacersAllDay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 14:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really doubt he was talking about Job in the Bible. For one, I don&#039;t think anyone who reads the Bible would describe it as having &quot;a great talk with ....&quot; Also, in the twitter world, everything is abbreviated. And these players read a lot more than players probably used to. I&#039;m sure he&#039;s aware of JOB being called JOB on the internet a lot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really doubt he was talking about Job in the Bible. For one, I don&#8217;t think anyone who reads the Bible would describe it as having &#8220;a great talk with &#8230;.&#8221; Also, in the twitter world, everything is abbreviated. And these players read a lot more than players probably used to. I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s aware of JOB being called JOB on the internet a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: McKeyFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>McKeyFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Marquis Daniels told us his favorite activity was reading the bible. So I think you&#039;re on to something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Marquis Daniels told us his favorite activity was reading the bible. So I think you&#8217;re on to something.</p>
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