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		<title>By: AMFinocchi</title>
		<link>http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.com/2012/06/what-does-a-draft-pick-get-you-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-14734</link>
		<dc:creator>AMFinocchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 02:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m I the only one who thinks we should get Kendall Marshall?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m I the only one who thinks we should get Kendall Marshall?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not see the Pacers making any moves in this draft.  True, Collison is a piece of trade bait, but the Pacers do not need to shake up their team.  They beat Miami twice and, with any rebounding to limit Miami&#039;s second chance points, could have stolen the series.  Drafting a true back-up center who can rebound and has good athleticism, resigning all free agents, and allowing Lance the opportunity to prove Larry Bird right in the sixth man role is the way to go.  Meaningless Prediction: The Pacers are the number 3 seed out of the East next season with a better chance to push Miami or Chicago to the brink; Lance averages 10 off the bench; PG becomes a better passer to the post]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not see the Pacers making any moves in this draft.  True, Collison is a piece of trade bait, but the Pacers do not need to shake up their team.  They beat Miami twice and, with any rebounding to limit Miami&#8217;s second chance points, could have stolen the series.  Drafting a true back-up center who can rebound and has good athleticism, resigning all free agents, and allowing Lance the opportunity to prove Larry Bird right in the sixth man role is the way to go.  Meaningless Prediction: The Pacers are the number 3 seed out of the East next season with a better chance to push Miami or Chicago to the brink; Lance averages 10 off the bench; PG becomes a better passer to the post</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@wesmont--

basically. If the Pacers act like they&#039;re leaning, look in the opposite direction. I think Draymond would add a skillset off the bench that we could really use. Stiesma could be a good fit, though he&#039;s restricted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@wesmont&#8211;</p>
<p>basically. If the Pacers act like they&#8217;re leaning, look in the opposite direction. I think Draymond would add a skillset off the bench that we could really use. Stiesma could be a good fit, though he&#8217;s restricted.</p>
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		<title>By: wesmont</title>
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		<dc:creator>wesmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t panic,this is a DEEP draft.Pacers take Draymond Green and get help with the second group as an offensive threat.That would help Hansbrough immediately.Or Melo as a defensive backup at center which would be a huge improvement.he would have the time to develop but would help right now.One of these two will be there.Past tells me when the Pacers talk up a guy,like Melo yesterday they are bluffing and heve NO intention of drafting him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t panic,this is a DEEP draft.Pacers take Draymond Green and get help with the second group as an offensive threat.That would help Hansbrough immediately.Or Melo as a defensive backup at center which would be a huge improvement.he would have the time to develop but would help right now.One of these two will be there.Past tells me when the Pacers talk up a guy,like Melo yesterday they are bluffing and heve NO intention of drafting him.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After watching some of DraftExpress&#039;s scouting videos, I&#039;d be pretty happy with Quincy Miller at 26. That kid can score in several ways. In the end, I think that&#039;s what we need most with a pick. I&#039;d also be happy with Draymond Green, whom I think will have a solid NBA career.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching some of DraftExpress&#8217;s scouting videos, I&#8217;d be pretty happy with Quincy Miller at 26. That kid can score in several ways. In the end, I think that&#8217;s what we need most with a pick. I&#8217;d also be happy with Draymond Green, whom I think will have a solid NBA career.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Hoerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Hoerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m generally with you on your trade proposal with Portland, Mike, but I think you&#039;re somewhat overestimating Collison&#039;s and especially Hansbrough&#039;s trade value.  Hansbrough hasn&#039;t shown any low post moves and to be honest I think the &quot;bull in a china shop&quot; tag often used for D. Jones applies even more to Hansbrough.  He has developed a solid mid-range jumper, but doesn&#039;t have elite range.  Collison would most definitely be an upgrade, but if you think about it, Collison&#039;s best stretch as a pro probably came in New Orleans, with Chris Paul out.  Felton&#039;s best stretch was at least as good, if not better while he was in New York with Amare.  While I still believe Collison is better, I don&#039;t think this is a massive upgrade that would compel Portland to give up the #6 pick.  The Pacers would be lucky to get the #11 pick from Portland with the package you put together.  

Finally, while I agree that Henson has a lot of potential, I certainly don&#039;t think he&#039;d be able to pick up the offensive load that Collison carried last year.  He&#039;s a wonderful, instinctual defensive player, but his back to the basket game still needs significant work.  And as for Harrison Barnes being &quot;potentially great&quot;?  You can&#039;t have been watching the same player I was.  He&#039;s potentially average.  He has no motor, no defensive intensity and is going to struggle massively to guard quicker 3&#039;s.  He is a solid shooter, but that&#039;s about it.  If we&#039;re just talking shooting, then we should trade for the #11 pick and take Jeremy Lamb.  That guy actually knows how to move without the ball, something Barnes is still clueless about.  Barnes looks an awful lot like Julian Wright from Kansas, drafted in 2007.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m generally with you on your trade proposal with Portland, Mike, but I think you&#8217;re somewhat overestimating Collison&#8217;s and especially Hansbrough&#8217;s trade value.  Hansbrough hasn&#8217;t shown any low post moves and to be honest I think the &#8220;bull in a china shop&#8221; tag often used for D. Jones applies even more to Hansbrough.  He has developed a solid mid-range jumper, but doesn&#8217;t have elite range.  Collison would most definitely be an upgrade, but if you think about it, Collison&#8217;s best stretch as a pro probably came in New Orleans, with Chris Paul out.  Felton&#8217;s best stretch was at least as good, if not better while he was in New York with Amare.  While I still believe Collison is better, I don&#8217;t think this is a massive upgrade that would compel Portland to give up the #6 pick.  The Pacers would be lucky to get the #11 pick from Portland with the package you put together.  </p>
<p>Finally, while I agree that Henson has a lot of potential, I certainly don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d be able to pick up the offensive load that Collison carried last year.  He&#8217;s a wonderful, instinctual defensive player, but his back to the basket game still needs significant work.  And as for Harrison Barnes being &#8220;potentially great&#8221;?  You can&#8217;t have been watching the same player I was.  He&#8217;s potentially average.  He has no motor, no defensive intensity and is going to struggle massively to guard quicker 3&#8242;s.  He is a solid shooter, but that&#8217;s about it.  If we&#8217;re just talking shooting, then we should trade for the #11 pick and take Jeremy Lamb.  That guy actually knows how to move without the ball, something Barnes is still clueless about.  Barnes looks an awful lot like Julian Wright from Kansas, drafted in 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: N</title>
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		<dc:creator>N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree... I&#039;d love to see the pacers package collison &amp; hansborough in a trade. I&#039;m so tired of watching hansborough/amundson come into games and just blow any lead that the pacers have.

Everytime hans get&#039;s the ball he just seems to completely panic unless he has an open mid range shot (which he wasn&#039;t able to consistently knock down, especially in the playoffs) or an uncontested dunk. The pacer&#039;s won&#039;t do anything in the post season unless they upgrade them.

I could also see the pacers staying pat and trying to pick up a pick in the second round. I&#039;m bullish on Jae Crowder, Machado, Reggie Hamilton, and Alex Young. The latter two could also probably be taken late in the 2nd. All of those guys are ready to come fill in as role players right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230; I&#8217;d love to see the pacers package collison &amp; hansborough in a trade. I&#8217;m so tired of watching hansborough/amundson come into games and just blow any lead that the pacers have.</p>
<p>Everytime hans get&#8217;s the ball he just seems to completely panic unless he has an open mid range shot (which he wasn&#8217;t able to consistently knock down, especially in the playoffs) or an uncontested dunk. The pacer&#8217;s won&#8217;t do anything in the post season unless they upgrade them.</p>
<p>I could also see the pacers staying pat and trying to pick up a pick in the second round. I&#8217;m bullish on Jae Crowder, Machado, Reggie Hamilton, and Alex Young. The latter two could also probably be taken late in the 2nd. All of those guys are ready to come fill in as role players right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jesse: And thus why I&#039;m much higher on the latter half of my response after some thought.  Packaging the two to Portland would be beneficial to both teams.  Henson or Barnes would both certainly be able to replace DC&#039;s scoring, and Portland is in desperate need of a point guard.  Hansbrough would give Collison a familiar PnR target as well as allowing Portland to play small and fast with LMA at the 5.  A lineup of Collison/Matthews/Batum/Hansbrough/Aldridge would be one of the fastest in the league, and Matthews/Batum would be able to cover for Collison being a bit undersized.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jesse: And thus why I&#8217;m much higher on the latter half of my response after some thought.  Packaging the two to Portland would be beneficial to both teams.  Henson or Barnes would both certainly be able to replace DC&#8217;s scoring, and Portland is in desperate need of a point guard.  Hansbrough would give Collison a familiar PnR target as well as allowing Portland to play small and fast with LMA at the 5.  A lineup of Collison/Matthews/Batum/Hansbrough/Aldridge would be one of the fastest in the league, and Matthews/Batum would be able to cover for Collison being a bit undersized.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Mike

I think these are generally pretty sensible ideas. But after a wretched season by Hansbrough, I&#039;m fairly down on him. My reservation about trading Collison for a mid first rounder would be if George Hill struggles at the point, gets injured, or if the bench scoring is otherwise anemic. I would be a little cautious about a rookie replacing DC&#039;s scoring unless it was a top 10 pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike</p>
<p>I think these are generally pretty sensible ideas. But after a wretched season by Hansbrough, I&#8217;m fairly down on him. My reservation about trading Collison for a mid first rounder would be if George Hill struggles at the point, gets injured, or if the bench scoring is otherwise anemic. I would be a little cautious about a rookie replacing DC&#8217;s scoring unless it was a top 10 pick.</p>
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