Comments on: Didn’t the Pacers Just Have This Guy?

By: Jordan

Jordan — Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:31:35 +0000

Dumb pick, plain & simple. Goodbye, Larry!

By: Joe B

Joe B — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 01:15:26 +0000

This was a very good column that takes a level approach to Plumlee’s weaknesses without just saying, “He’s garbage” and walking away. My only concern is PJ3′s upside is less impressive to me than Plumlee’s real size, and the McBob comparison is off (more later). The Pacers needed a back-up center, so they drafted one. PJIII would have provided depth at the wing, but do the Pacers need another wing player, especially when their only legitimate free agency signing will be a veteran wing player?

Where was the greatest deficiency? The 4 and 5 bench positions, but we know Tyler is capable of being effective when he hits his jumper…it just didn’t happen so much this season. Plumlee will be asked to rebound and defend, but unlike Lou, he will have the size to do it.

McBob had the hops but lacked the muscle to really bang with NBA bodies…he was more of a finesse player who made the highlight reel for random oops…as in oops I actually scored, because I try really hard not to.

By: Jason S.

Jason S. — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:30:47 +0000

Tyler is 6′ 9″ and Plumlee is 6′ 11″. 2 inches is a big difference in the NBA; the difference between a PF and center. It is like comparing Josh Smith to Kevin Garnett (except both of those players are WAY better than Plumlee and Tyler).

I don’t know about Plumlee working out (and I still can’t figure out why McRoberts is not better), but I am sure that Perry Jones will not be a starter in the NBA. He is too small, not strong enough and apparently does not care as much about being great.

By: NoLookPass

NoLookPass — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:14:04 +0000

Did I just see someone say Josh is better than Tyler?

PER Rating Career:
15.4 for Tyler
14.4 for Josh

PER Rating 2011-2012
14.7 for Tyler
10.9 for Josh

So the year everyone talks about Tyler was so terrible he was still better than Josh’s career!

By: Chris D.

Chris D. — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 01:31:00 +0000

It’s unlikely Plumlee will be as good as Dunleavy, McRob, or Redick–all three of whom are better than Psycho-T. Dunleavy has been a solid pro his entire career and is well above the rest of this list. Sure, he was overpriced at $10M, but he would have shot better than Danny (who at $13M makes 80% as much as LBJ) in most of our playoff games. And, I’d bet Josh would have been better off the bench than Tyler was.

By: Jonathan Auping

Jonathan Auping — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 01:18:19 +0000

I agree that it would be unfair to say that athleticism is a weakness for Plumlee. He is actually quite athletic (I hope it was understood that mentioning his race was simply a tongue-in-cheek joke). However, a player like Jones III does have a much wider skill set and a much higher ceiling. I also considered Teague to be a good fit with the Pacers before the draft.

@kiel k. I am not quite sure what statistics in the article are different than the stats listed by draft express. Some list Plumlee at 245 pounds while some list him just over 250 pounds.

By: kiel k.

kiel k. — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 01:01:10 +0000

some of your plumee stats are off
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Miles-Plumlee-5261/

By: Dwight Meredith

Dwight Meredith — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:27:17 +0000

I do not want my previous comment to leave the wrong impression. I would not have selected Plumlee, I would have taken Jones instead. I also don’t think Plumlee will be a very good player (his upside is an offensively challenged bagger with high energy and good athleticism). I just think it is important to understand what they got.

He is sorta like Tyler H in effort and intensity. He is the exact opposite in other ways. Hansborough is small for a 4, a poor athlete (at NBA levels) with a high motor and a good offensive skill set. Plumlee is good sized for a banger 6’10.5′ in bare feet, a good athlete but has absolute no offensive skill or instincts (cant handle or shoot, and cant see well enough to pass well, although quite willing). The same was true of Josh McRoberts. Small and slow but could see and pass and (sorta) handle.

If you merged Hansborough’s motor and skill set with Plumlee’s size and athleticism, you would have a very good starting NBA 4.

I would have taken Jones because even the low probability that he becomes really, really good outweighs the low risk of a few million dollars and a substantial amount of player development resources. You just aint going to get much that late in the draft anyway. See http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2012/06/25/nba-draft-analysis-picks-21-30

By: William

William — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:20:16 +0000

I don’t care if a player is green or purple, so long as they can play at a high level. I have stated before that passing on UK’s Marquis Teague will be seen in the future as a huge mistake, but time will tell when the Pacers play the Bulls next year and Teague runs by Plumlee to get a lay up. Some of the talk was they wanted a Jeff Foster replacement, well this guy will not be it, but I’m patient and time will prove me and others right.

By: Dwight Meredith

Dwight Meredith — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 22:35:40 +0000

Athleticism? Plumlee is bigger than Jones by a quarter inch. He is 18 pounds heavier. He jumps higher both w/ and w/o a step. He bench presses 185lbs 15 times vs 11 for Jones. He is faster in lane agility and only slightly slower in the 3/4 court run.

Stats from http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Miles-Plumlee-5261/.