Comments on: Roy Hibbert Will Remain a Pacer

By: It’s Official: Hibbert and Hill Are Back | Eight Points, Nine Seconds

It’s Official: Hibbert and Hill Are Back | Eight Points, Nine Seconds — Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:36:15 +0000

[...] agents both signed their deals today. Combined, the inside-out duo are now $100 million men, with Roy Hibbert getting around $60 million over four years and George Hill guaranteed $40 million for five seasons. (photo via [...]

By: Chris Kaman to Sign With Dallas | Eight Points, Nine Seconds

Chris Kaman to Sign With Dallas | Eight Points, Nine Seconds — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:37:56 +0000

[...] it became clear that the Pacers would re-sign Roy Hibbert, the chances of them also signing Chris Kaman plummeted. Kaman, a former All-Star center, of course [...]

By: gregor t.

gregor t. — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:33:21 +0000

I guess what i was thinking was, if the Pacers can keep Hibbert’s minutes down around 30mpg during the regular season he would be better fit to play 36-38mpg, or more, in the playoffs. All the Pacers starters had a +/- advantage against the Heat starters. They all need to play more minutes in the playoffs if the Pacers want advance past the 2nd round. The Pacers bench was solid in the regular season, but in the playoffs, outside of Collison, they struggled. The Pacers starters should all prep themselves for 40 mpg if they want to win the East. Let the bench grind during the season. Let the starters grind in the playoffs.

By: PG

PG — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:29:30 +0000

Mike – I apologize if I wasn’t clear, but I wasn’t necessarily attributing Hibbert’s limited mpg to his being out of shape or unathletic. The truth is that there are probably multiple reasons why his minutes have been limited (some combination of those you stated above, along with others). My point is, that there hasn’t been any evidence that he definitely CAN play more minutes without a significant drop off in the quality of his play. If he can play more, then that’s great, he’ll be doing that much more to justify his contract. But if he can’t, then the Pacers still need a credible offensive and defensive center as his backup to play nearly 20 mpg and step in as a starter if Hibbert gets hurt. If you only need that backup for 13-14 mpg, then I wouldn’t be nearly as concerned about the Pacer’s front court and probably wouldn’t be as annoyed with the Plumlee pick.

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:22:14 +0000

PG – I agree I’d like to see him on the court more with this new contract, but attributing the fact that he’s played between 28-30 mpg the last three seasons because he’s unathletic and out of shape is pretty pessimistic at best. There are many other factors that go into a player’s PT.

By: Jack

Jack — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:39:20 +0000

I wouldv’e been ticked if we had given him the max offer if it weren’t for what I saw to be a drastic improvement in his game in the last 20% of the season, including the playoffs. He went from being what I saw as expendable, to what I see him now as: A crucial asset to our team, and a player that will only continue to improve over the coming seasons. If we want to compete for a championship in the next few years (which we have the talent to do), we need him on our team, no doubt. mpg stats be damned

By: PG

PG — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:56:09 +0000

How would 4 more mpg justify his contract? gregor t. – Are you serious? It would mean 4 more minutes of Roy’s tremendous plus/minus stats and 4 less minutes of Lou or Plumlee. Over the course of the whole season that is a huge impact.

Yao is applicable because of the size comparisons. And maybe Gasol is built differently, all I’m saying is that it is easier to justify paying that much to a big man if they’re on the court more. I’m not sure why this is such a difficult concept for some to grasp.

Mike, again, I hope you’re right when you guess that Roy will average 32-34 mpg. I think 34 mpg should be expected for a max contract player, regardless of what position they’re playing.

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:17:32 +0000

Marc Gasol may just be more athletic. Not every person is built the exact same either. Just because someone is the same height and weighs nearly the same, doesn’t mean they should have the exact same physical capabilities. Also, maybe it’s the way their rotations work. You gotta think about the years he’s played too. First year – rookie, second -obrien, third – obrien, fourth – shortened season.

By: jk31

jk31 — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:36:31 +0000

fyi brook lopez will receive max too…i’ll take big roy!

By: gregor t.

gregor t. — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:36:55 +0000

And why would you even bring up Yao Ming. His career was ended at 30 from injuries.