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2010 NBA Draft

Looking at Lance Stephenson

by Jared Wade on June 25, 2010 at 11:35 am · 1 comment

For those of us who live in New York, Lance Stephenson’s name rung out over the past few years. Hailing from the same school at Stephon Marbury and Sebastian Telfair — and looking like a guy who might have the most talent of the three — he became a city legend. He led Lincoln High School to four straight PSAL city public league titles (something that has never been done before) while also become the most prolific scorer in New York state history.

Helluva resume.

It even got Lance, a guy who earned the nickname “Born Ready” by hanging with — and, at times, embarrassing — seasoned adults on the legendary Rucker Park courts, onto the cover of Dime magazine as a junior alongside the cover line “This 17-year-old would be an NBA star right now.” Given his underwhelming freshman year at Cincinnati and foolish-by-some-people’s-estimation decision to enter the NBA Draft this year, the hype has so far been overstated. The very fact that he was picked 40th in the draft tells you all you need to know about how other NBA GMs rate his future potential.

Still, the kid has talent. Here’s what Dime recently had to say about Stephenson in a piece they did acknowledging their overzealous estimation of his ability.

You think when we slapped a 17-year-old high school junior on the cover of Dime #42 and declared he would “be an NBA star right now,” it would go down as one of the biggest fumbles in basketball mag history, right?

Well, you’re right. In a way. We did call it too early. Lance Stephenson wouldn’t have been an NBA star at 17. But watch as he becomes one in his 20’s. Or at least climbs higher than being the bust so many are making him out to be.

Still…

But think about the elements we look for in a successful NBA player, and then you’ll realize he has almost every one. Size? Lance goes 6-5 and 210 at 19 years old, more than good enough for an NBA two-guard. Skills? He can handle the rock like a point guard, pass better than a lot of twos, and his strength is on par with many small forwards. Clutch? Against UConn on national TV, Lance hit game-winning free throws with 0.7 seconds left, then later downed Rutgers in the BIG EAST Tournament with two free throws as 1.8 showed on the clock. Work ethic? In high school, Lance woke up hours before school every morning in Coney Island to run stairs. Good teammate? While he was clearly the most talented player on the Bearcats this season, Lance routinely deferred to the upperclassmen, until he was called upon to be the primary scorer.

His jumper needs work, and he needs to play more under control, but plenty of teenagers have come into the NBA with the same issues. What’s important is that the basic foundation is set. Maybe he won’t be an All-Star or even a starter right away, but Lance Stephenson will be all right.

Take that for what you will. It’s coming from a magazine that obviously has some vested interest from a credibility standpoint in Lance — at a bare minimum — being “all right.”

I can’t personally add anything to the Lance discussion. The memorable aspect of Stephenson’s career to me was the fact that me, a St. John’s University alum, and many of my other SJU friends were very, very disappointed when he did decided not to come to St. John’s. But as I have been continually noting, I don’t really watch much college basketball and have only seen Stephenson play one time.

Thus, I leave you with Lance in his own words, via an interview he did last month with Draft Express.

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Some Pacers Thoughts from the Draft

by Jared Wade on June 25, 2010 at 11:18 am · 3 comments

So I was at the Draft last night, running around amongst the madness and looking for some Pacers-related tidbits to share with you fine folks. Tim already nailed the first-impression stuff, so check that if you want to know exactly what happened. Honestly, he probably had a better handle on the whole event than I did.

It’s counter-intuitive, but being in the building can be somewhat like being in an information vacuum. There are TVs around to stay updated (in some places), but as you stalk players from the big stage to the back room and sit it on the player press conferences, a lot of trade speculation and discussion goes down that you totally miss.

But there is some info to report. Here was my write-up about the Pacer lottery pick Paul George from last night over at Hardwood Paroxysm:

Paul George went to my Pacers at pick #10, so I followed him around for a while and asked him a question about how he can help bring some consistency to the Pacers perimeter. He gave a typical answer about working hard this summer but added that he “can pretty much do a lot of things on the court” and that he definitely doesn’t “want to come into a…team that’s on the verge of winning and be a slacker.” He also showed some personality after someone asked him whether he feels any pressure to perform since a lot of Hoosiers wanted the Pacers to pick local hero Gordon Hayward. “Yeah, Gordon Hayward is a good friend of mine…” he said, before being interrupted by the reporter, who noted that “…but he was gone.” “Luckily,” said George, sounding like one of the few people on the planet who legitimately wanted to play for the Indiana Pacers. “I definitely want to do good for the fans and I want to pan out to what they want me to be.” Perhaps more importantly, the guy appears to be a very good dresser. Definitely a best-dressed of the night candidate, which was aided by his cool, I’m-really-enjoying-this demeanor. He even looked excited to talk to Craig Sager.

Nice to see that the consummate style icon Trey Kerby of Ball Don’t Lie agreed with my “best-dressed of the night candidate” assessment. The tie chain was indeed amazing.

Here are a few other quotes from George’s press conference last night after he was picked:

  • On being drafted: “Excited. Happy to be here. It’s a dream come true and no words to express how happy I am right now.”
  • On playing with Danny Granger, another guy from a smaller college program out West: “I look at Danny as a bigger brother and mentor to myself. We have been working out and training together out in Los Angeles, so we kind of have a bond, you know, as it is already, so I’m extremely happy to be in this situation with this team and this organization. I mean, I just can’t wait to start.”
  • On whether or not he thought he would be a Pacer: “I didn’t know what to expect. I told my agent to let it ride out. I didn’t want no hints on where I was going so it was a surprise to me. [But] I knew they liked me and I had a good time when I did have my workout there, so it wasn’t that big of a surprise.”

He also talked to Craig Sager about his athleticism — one of his biggest strengths — and how he wanted to spend some time this summer working to improve his quickness and foot speed to make that an even bigger asset for him in the big boy’s league. I can’t say I’m particularly familiar with him from Fresno State (I watch too much NBA basketball to adequately follow NCAA hoops), but between comments like this and just following him around and getting a sense for his demeanor during the night, he looked like someone who was for sure excited to finally make it to the league — but also someone who was excited to start working hard immediately to prove he belongs.

He seemed like a guy who looked at the draft as a beginning, not an end.

Another interesting moment came earlier during the night when I got a chance to chat with Coach John Thompson III of Georgetown. He was there to support his 2009-10 star big man Greg Monroe (who went to the Pistons at pick #7) but made some time to talk a little about his 2007-08 star big man Roy Hibbert.

Like most of us, Thompson has seen tremendous growth out of Hibbert since he entered the league — but he hasn’t been at all surprised. And he doesn’t see that trend stopping anytime soon. Roy was one of the most coachable players he has ever been around, and he thinks we’re all going to look up in four years, expecting Hibbert to have plateaued — only to watch him continue to get better. That’s what he saw at Georgetown out of a kid who wasn’t even that highly regarded out of high school. And he agreed with me that we saw more growth in year two out of Roy than we did in year one — at least in part — because it took him a little while to properly condition his hulking frame to the rigors of the NBA game. And now that he can comfortably run up and down the court for 25-plus minutes a night, we can expect a similar evolution next season.

And hearing about that continued growth from the big fella, along with watching Indiana gain an athletic wing from Fresno and possible-diamond-in-the-rough Lance Stephenson (who oh-by-the-way scored more points in his New York City high school career than any other player in New York state history while also leading Lincoln High School to an unprecedented four straight city titles) made for a pretty good night inside MSG.

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Shot from the media balcony seconds before the Pacers picked Paul George. And don’t worry, I’ll have some better, non-Blackberry-taken photos and video for you shortly.

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Paul George

The Pacers entered the night desperately in need of a point guard.  They left the night in pretty much the same shape.

Unable to complete a deal to land a point guard, the Pacers did pretty much as we said they’d do in this situation: drafted Paul George.  Though I would have liked filling that gaping hole at the point much better, I do like this pick.

George looks like a player who is ready to contribute offensively almost immediately, though it’s not entirely clear what position he’ll play.  Defensively, he needs to improve his mechanics and grow into his body, but he has the tools to be a special player at this level.  Maybe not this season, but down the road, he could be a force defensively on the wing.

This pick — really all of these picks — run somewhat counter to the Pacers’ recent history of drafting 4-year players from major programs.  Where Tyler Hansbrough, Brandon Rush, and Roy Hibbert all were reputed to be low risk, low reward players, George is certainly not that.  Here’s what DraftExpress’ Jonathan Givony tweeted in response to the Pacers’ selection:

Indiana finally grew a pair & stopped hitting singles. I begged my guy there to swing for the fences for once. That’s exactly what they did.

With their second pick (#40), the Pacers took an even bigger chance, selecting Lance Stephenson.  A solidly-built, 6-5 shooting guard from Cincinnati, Stephenson represents something of a baffling pick, to me.

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First, I’m not sure why they’d add another wing.  Second, Stephenson definitely is not the “milk drinker” type.  He was a top prospect a year ago coming out of high school — rated ahead of Wall, Cousins, and Favors by some scouting services — but had a somewhat lackluster freshman year.  He has a reputation of being a somewhat selfish player, and he has some red flags off the court.  This is a guy with a ton of talent, but almost as much baggage.   I’m not sure how he’ll work out coming into a pretty weak locker room in Indianapolis — at least from a player leadership standpoint.

Still, to be totally honest, I haven’t seen anywhere near enough to make a complete judgment.  Also, it seems that he did largely have his act together at UC — though his shot selection still leaves much to be desired.

So, those are the two wings.  The prayer comes in the form of Magnum Rolle — a fantastic name that comes attached to a skinny, 24-year old 6-10 power forward from Louisiana Tech.  The Pacers actually drafted Ryan Reid at #57 — who I suspect doesn’t really exist after trying to research him quickly — but traded Reid, along with cash, to Oklahoma City for Rolle, who had been taken with the 51st pick.

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Magnum looks like a quick, athletic shot blocker that could play well next to Hibbert — if he develops quite a bit.  He won’t ever be a banger, but he could be a decent weakside shot blocker.

The Christmas Wish

I had really wanted to see some clear signal of the direction Bird wants to take the Pacers.  Unfortunately, I’m still scratching my head a bit.  The Pacers have no point guard, and when asked about it, Bird simply said they’d work on it this summer.  From that perspective, I found draft night somewhat unsatisfying.

However, I do like the Paul George pick quite a bit.  Also, my more cautious angels are telling me not to confuse activity with accomplishment.  There is still a lot of summer left, so I’m sure there are still plenty of moves yet to be made.  Still, there’s not a lot here for Pacer fans to really embrace as bold steps forward.

Scuttlebutt

There were a bazillion rumors going on over the last few days, and it seems clear that none really came to fruition.  However, these three were interesting:

  • Flirting with Thunder
    One of the most persistent rumors over the last day was that the Oklahoma City Thunder was trying to acquire the #10 pick.  Probably my favorite scenario was getting back Eric Maynor, the #18, and the #21 picks in return for the #10 pick and filler.  It seems now that this was never a real possibility, but it sure sounded good at the time.  OKC ended up trading the #21 & #26 picks to New Orleans in return for the #11 (Cole Aldrich).  They also provided New Orleans with some much needed cap relief by taking back Morris Peterson and his contract.  Supposedly, the Pacers turned down a similar offer, where OKC would take T.J. Ford’s contract off our hands.  As tempting financially as that is, I think I’d rather roll the dice with Paul George.
  • Danny in Danger?
    A rumor popped up shortly before the draft that had the Pacers sending Danny Granger & the #10 to New Jersey in exchange for Devin Harris, Yi Jianlian, and the #3 — which the Pacers would use on Derrick Favors.  The deal didn’t seem to make a lot of sense for either team, to me, and Larry Bird vehemently denied any such deal.  Still, plenty of true things have been vehemently denied, so I’m not real sure what to make of that.  Right now, I’ll just decide to be glad it didn’t happen, and move on.
  • Bobcat Deal Revisited?
    After the selection of Lance Stephenson, I had tweeted that I thought the Pacers might revisit a rumored deal with Charlotte, sending T.J. Ford and Brandon Rush out for a package that might included Raymond Felton as the solution at the point.  I don’t know how feasible it is, and more importantly, I don’t know how desirable it would be.  However, it is interesting in light of this little twitter exchange Brandon Rush as the Pacers picked:

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There’s little reason to believe that Brandon is aware of any imminent deal, but the Pacers now have six wings (Granger, Rush, Dunleavy, D Jones, George, and Stephenson), seven bigs (Hibbert, Murphy, Foster, Hansbrough, McRoberts, S Jones, and Rolle) to go with basically zero functional point guards.  It seems only reasonable that something has to give.  Doesn’t it?

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So, perhaps we should rethink that left turn at Albuquerque.

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The 2010 Draft – Christmas in June

by Tim Donahue on June 24, 2010 at 6:30 am · 9 comments

As of right now, nothing has happened.

As of right now, anything can happen.

Thursday night is the NBA version of Christmas.  It seems to me that NBA fans invest more hope into this one day than any other each year.  Pacer fans are no different, though their hopes might be more fervent than most for this particular draft.

There are so many holes to fill on a team that has missed the playoffs for the last four seasons.  The most glaring is at point guard, a position currently manned by A.J. Price, who just blew out his knee, and T.J. Ford, whose career arc in Indiana is threatening to follow Jamaal Tinsley’s.

In addition to that, they could use an athletic big man capable of protecting the rim and playing both beside and in place of center Roy Hibbert.  They could stand someone to provide some scoring punch off the bench and more defensive talent at pretty much every position.

Santa Larry Joe has three draft picks (#10, #40, & #57), some expiring contracts,  and some middling young prospects that he can use as bargaining chips to try to fulfill this “Christmas List.”  I hate to be Scrooge, but there will be plenty of unfulfilled wishes for Pacer fans tomorrow.

But, hey, that’s OK.  As a child, I got used to the fact that my Christmas list and actual Christmas presents were rarely in sync.  After giving my list of wishes and wants, I was always asked, “What about surprises?  Don’t you love to get surprises?”

Now, that’s not to say that I didn’t have good Christmases as a child.  In fact, I had great Christmases.  You should all be jealous.  Surprises can be pretty damn cool.

Therefore, while I’m sure that the Pacers will leave Thursday with almost as many holes as they have today, I’m still looking forward to the surprises like a kid at Christmas.  True, some of them might be, ummmm, disappointing – I’m lookin’ at you, Chia Pet – but some might be even better than anything we are dreaming of tonight.

However, there is one thing that I need to find under the tree today, Santa Bird, and it’s not negotiable.

Direction.

I’ve understood all along that the “Three Year Plan” was really just one part plan and five parts waiting for the ugly contracts to expire.  It’s been perfectly clear to me why the last two years have been spent treading water.  Given the payroll and the roster, any expectations beyond just getting by game-to-game were probably too high.

But…no more.  It’s time.  I need to see moves that hang together.  The actions taken on June 24th need to at least appear to be a part of a larger plan.

They don’t need to be perfect.  They don’t need to be huge.  They just need to make sense.

What does that mean?  It’s hard to explain, but to paraphrase Potter Stewart, we’ll know it when we see it.

Just as we’ll recognize coal – if that’s what the day brings.

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No, I won’t sit on your knee.

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