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According to Boston Celtics coach Doc Rivers, the current Pacers may be starting to look a lot more like the 1998 2008 Celtics team that won the title than the 2012 Celtics do. They are obviously much younger and even more obviously not that talented, but Rivers is referring to the style of play.

Peter May reports for ESPN Boston:

Doc Rivers said it before the game. He repeated it after the game. The Celtics’ coach looks at the Indiana Pacers and sees a younger version of the team he took to the NBA’s promised land.

“They’ve done a great job of adding pieces and adding them quickly,” Rivers said. “It’s amazing to me. It’s like watching a young version of us. I know. I hate to say it. But they’re young. They’re scary. And they’re good.”

That was before the Pacers went out and overwhelmed the Celtics 87-74, crushing them on the glass and pulling away down the stretch. You know, sort of what the Celtics have done every now and then to other teams over the past few years.

“They were us,” Rivers repeated afterward. “They knocked us off the block. They were the instigator the whole night, and all we did was whine and not retaliate.”

This following quote is a wonderful description of how that Boston title team dominated.

“They were in our air space,” Rivers said, using a favorite term to describe inside advantage. “We always talk about owning the air space. That’s who we are. And they were us — for the entire game. I just thought they did it better than us.”

Ask Pacers Coach Frank Vogel, and this isn’t by accident.

After being told of Rivers’ comments, [Vogel] cracked a smile and said, “Well, we’re trying to be them.”

He wasn’t just blowing smoke. Before every practice and film session, Vogel said, he writes the word “togetherness” on the board. It’s his version of ubuntu. And it’s all because of Rivers.

“One-hundred percent because of Doc,” he said. “I don’t know him very well, but the year they won the championship, I heard him use the word ‘togetherness’ about a million times. And what he did with that team was an inspiration to me, and I am trying my best to recreate that here [in Indiana].”

I don’t think anyone is actually going to mistake the two teams. There isn’t one player on this Pacers roster as good as Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen or, probably, Rajon Rondo. But the style of play, at least in Doc’s eyes, is enough to make a comparison.

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The Pacers were up 6 on the Celtics when the fourth quarter started last night. After a disgusting, borderline-unwatchable, lockout-rust-tainted first half, both teams had gotten back on the track. Boston shot 11-for-20 in the third quarter and looked to be readying their late-game comeback attempt. The mostly dormant TD Banknorth Garden crowd had been brought alive each time one of the team’s perimeter Hall of Famers knocked down one of their 3 threes in the period. Rondo was dishing out assists all over the court and brought some additional passion to the game on two verbals exchanges with a ref, the second earning him a technical. Even Keyon Dooling was wowing the crowd off the bench, breaking out a slick “Rondo Fake” deception move on the way to a driving layup late in the quarter.

But the Pacers soon took complete control of the game. At the helm was AJ Price.

George Hill did the glory work, sticking three jumpers to extend Indiana’s lead to 13 just over 3 minutes into the final period. But it was AJ’s steady work as floor general, which sparked an 8-0 run, that keep the offense moving and creating good shots

Pacers captain Danny Granger, who watched all this from the bench, was impressed. ”I thought [Price] was the player of the game,” said Granger. “I call him the player of the game because he came in — he only made two free throws but he ran that team. He didn’t overdo anything. He made the right passes: George [Hill] was hot, so he got George the ball where he needed it to be. That’s what you need from a point guard: a facilitator. So AJ was the player of the game to me because that gave us the lead — the cushion — that we needed.”

After the game, Coach Frank Vogel also had praise for the third-year guard he has seldom-used this season. “AJ Price hasn’t played a relevant minute all year,” said Vogel. “With Lance [Stephenson]‘s injury, I always have confidence in AJ Price. He was our backup point guard last year, and he’s a heckuva basketball player. He led that second unit in terms of organizing our offense.”

Mike Wells of the Indianapolis Star saw the same thing everyone in the Pacers locker room did. And he thinks this performance by Price proved enough that he should be ahead of Lance Stephenson in the rotation even when Born Ready’s ankle is ready.

“Price is just a better pure point guard. I feel like the Pacers are force-feeding Stephenson minutes when Price should be getting those minutes. … the second unit’s offense simply runs smoother when Price, who is called Juice by his teammates, is on the court.”

At this point, that’s hard to disagree with if you’re interested in the Pacers maximizing their chance to win every minute of every game. Few would argue that Stephenson has the higher ceiling of the two reserves guards — AJ probably tops out as a fringe NBA starter while Lance has the innate talent to be significantly better than that. But Lance has so far this season shown either signs of flash or inexperience, never the steady presence that AJ gave last night as the Pacers out-played the Celtics in Boston throughout the fourth quarter.

 

 

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After one of the ugliest first halves of basketball I’ve ever seen (Indy led 33-25 at the break), the Pacers found a way to score some points. The bench was instrumental in the victory and some familiar — but unseen-so-far-this-season — faces keep the team out-playing Boston for most of the second 24 minutes. George Hill, AJ Price and Jeff Foster all showed why many people were talking up this team’s depth before the season started. Even with some regular contributors struggling (namely, all of them), Indy was able to grind this one out in Boston, who tied a franchise record for futility in a half with just 25 points in the opening two quarters. That’s impressive — even if Paul Pierce and KG looked like the 16-year-old pet cat I recently had to put down.

Here is how each player faired during the win.

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Indiana Pacers 87 – Boston Celtics 74

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Expert Says Pacer Are Better Than Celtics

by Jared Wade on December 21, 2011 at 9:53 am · 1 comment

After his speculative comments regarding David West’s motivation for signing with Indiana instead of Boston, a lot of Pacers fans think Ray Allen should maybe just stop talking for awhile. And a lot of those people now may be happy to hear what Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated is saying about the Celtics.

He said the following after being asked whether New York had improved enough to become better than Boston. (Red’s Army)

Meter: You throw them over the Knicks this year

Mannix: Yes, if Baron Davis is healthy. If Baron Davis is three-quarters the Baron Davis we saw with the Clippers, I think they are better. Tyson Chandler changes them a lot, especially on defensive end. This is going to sound crazy, right now, Miami, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia and Indiana are better than Boston.

I’m skeptical that this whole “Philadelphia and Indiana are better than Boston” thing will hold any water. But I’m sure plenty of Pacers fans are hoping it does.

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