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Bird on His Long-Term Plan, The Brawl

by Jared Wade on November 21, 2009 at 5:13 pm · 0 comments

Dan Shaughnessy of the Boston Globe recently tracked down Larry Legend for an interview that led to a feature on Bird in yesterday’s paper. Since it’s written for Boston readers, it focuses mostly on Larry’s Celtic past and the most entertaining part coming from, as John Karalis of Red’s Army notes, a story about Bill Walton drinking Wild Turkey by himself all night and into the morning in Larry’s kitchen after the 1986 Cs won the NBA Finals.

For Pacers fans, the most interesting quote comes about the front office’s oft-discussed long-term plan to finalize the franchise turnaround since the fallout from the Malice at the Palace.

As for his 2009 Pacers, Bird said, “We’re rebuilding and people tend to forget that. We have a plan, and after next year we’re going to have a lot of money and I want to get a core of guys here to build with and hopefully take seven or eight of ’em with us going forward, and if we can do that, I think we’ll be better.’’

The Pacers are still recovering from the melee at The Palace of Auburn Hills in 2004.

“It changed everything,’’ said Bird. “It hit harder here than you can ever imagine. It not only killed our fan base, but everything we tried to do that year to win. We felt we were very talented. It just stopped on that night. We had a decent bench and good players and felt we were going to make a great playoff run, but it all stopped.’’

Interesting.

I’m sure he’s alluded to it before, but this is the first time I can recall Larry saying something as straight-forward as “we’re going to have a lot money” in the 2011 Summer, which suggests that there probably won’t be any big moves happenign before then. Just given the fact that, aside from Danny, the bulk of payroll is full of non-expiring deals for at least marginally overpaid players that no other GMs particularly want (MDJ, Troy, TJ, Jeff) or young, low-salaried players that the Pacers probably aren’t shopping, I wasn’t expecting any major moves until Troy, MDJ, TJ and Tinsley’s deals come off the books anyway. But it’s interesting to hear Bird talk publicly about his plans to have “a lot of money.” I’m sure he’s mentioned such sentiments before, so I’m not saying this is some be revelation or anything, but it is a little nugget of info to remember.

Unfortunately, 2011 is a ways away, and the club will be largely treading water until some sort of significant talent infusion occurs, but Pacers fans have waited this long — what’s another 18 months? Ultimately, it’s the only operating philosophy that makes sense.

In other news, speaking of the Celtics, I spoke in depth about Larry’s former team with the aforementioned John Karalis of Red’s Army on the latest episode of my new podcast “Talking About Practice.” The podcast is officially being done for my NBA-wide blog Both Teams Played Hard and will cover the entire Association, but my goal is to try to make it as Pacer-related as possible as well. For many episodes, I’ll try to get a guest who can talk about our upcoming opponent or people who can just talk Indy in general. Karalis for instance discusses the Pacers win over Boston during our conversation.

You can click the “Talking About Practice” graphic to the right ( ———> ) for the RSS feed for the podcast, check back regularly at BTPH (there will be a very good Episode #3 up on Monday) or subscribe through iTunes.

Let me know what you think or what types of Pacer discussion you would like to hear about.

Talking About Practice

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New Pacers Logo?

by Jared Wade on October 31, 2009 at 1:54 am · 0 comments

I’m not sure if you are one of the tens of regular readers of Both Teams Played Hard, but we spent like half the summer doing an exceedingly slow roll out of our NBA Logo Ranking Project, which picked apart each team’s logo from #30 to #1 and was generally a waste of everyone’s time. It was a foolish endeavor, but there were some good bloggers involved and it kept a couple of my friends entertained for a few months so it was worthwhile. Plus, it kept me from having to write about even foolisher things that people like to pretend are news during the offseason like NBA players saying “controversial” things on Twitter, Ricky Rubio’s true feelings on the state of Minnesota and the ongoing pretend officiating apocalypse.

One of the my favorite entries came from Project Spurs‘ Jeff Garcia, who mocked the Orlando Magic’s dumb logo and suggested an Arrested Development-themed replacement. If you’re an Arrested Development fan, chances are you’ll think it’s pretty funny. Or at least clever. But if you’ve never seen the show, you will have no idea what the whole thing is about.

Anyway…

Because of my recent logo fascination, I was very glad to see ESPN’s Page 2 put forth it’s own “New and Improved NBA Logos” for all 30 teams. The Nuggets, Nets and Wolves are all particularly good. And while the Pacer one might not be all that funny, it is pretty clever. Nationally, no one really knows what to think about Indiana, and it seems that even local fans are just as divided on whether or not this team will be among the worst in the league — as they have looked the last two games — or whether they might be able to sneak into the Eastern Conference playoffs.

Here’s their take, with the whole before-and-after, side-by-side effect. Really, the only thing else that’s missing from the question mark is a picture of Mike Dunleavy’s knee. Still, pretty well done.

Pacers Logo Page 2

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