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Indiana Forming a Lockout All-Star Squad

by Jared Wade on September 3, 2011 at 11:46 am · 2 comments

Good news for anyone who wants to ease their lockout woes by watching professional players play amateur basketball in Indiana. It’s not the NBA, but it’s better than nothing. (h/t I Am A GM)

This summer, basketball fans have been treated to a number of big games featuring the best players from regions like Los Angeles, Washington D.C. and Baltimore. The Drew League, Goodman League and Melo League have made the lockout tolerable for many basketball fans and given a number of NBA stars something to do with their free time.

Now, it appears more players will have the opportunity to represent their hometown. Seattle and Indiana are among the regions working to put together their own travel teams featuring NBA players. Organizers are trying to assemble rosters and schedule games against the other regional teams.

The team from Indiana hasn’t released a roster, but there are a number of NBA players who were born in the area that could participate. Zach Randolph, Eric Gordon, George Hill, Courtney Lee, Jeff Teague, Mike Conley, Josh McRoberts, Jared Jeffries, Brad Miller and Gordon Hayward were all born in Indiana. Other NBA players such as Luke Harangody and Rodney Carney could also be eligible to play since they attended high school in the area.

Indiana might not have Durant, Melo or Kobe, but they could field perhaps the most well-rounded actual team. Hill and EJ starting in the backcourt with Z-Bo, McRoberts and some third guard starting up front.

Barnstorm away.

Based on the photo of his torso below, I’m guessing George Hill is in.

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No Hibbert in Rookie/Sophomore Game

by Jared Wade on January 28, 2010 at 9:06 am · 1 comment

With Danny Granger certain to miss this year’s All-Star Game, Roy Hibbert was probably the only person with a shot at representing Indy in Dallas this February. But as we learned yesterday, the big fella didn’t make the cut for the Rookie/Sophomore Game. And looking at all the highly qualified sophomores on the roster, Pacer fans can’t even be too upset.

Here are the lineups for the Rookie/Sophomore Game.

All Star Rookie Sophomore

Really, the only second-year guy that Hibbert may have even had a shot of displacing from a talent standpoint is Kevin Love, but even though he missed significant time, Love’s numbers ultimately dwarf Roy’s. Honestly, had AJ Price started getting playing time back in November, it’s probably more likely that he could have beat out Jonas Jerebko or Taj Gibson than it is that Roy would have made the team. (Then again, more minutes for AJ could also have exposed him as not ready for prime-time. I like the kid, but the jury is still definitely out. And realizing as I type this that Ty Lawson didn’t even make the squad, the previous sentence I just typed is patently absurd.)

More important than some silly exhibition game that no one watches, however, is finding out what this team actually has in Roy Hibbert. That’s the larger issue for the team, obviously. So this does provide us with a nice opportunity to look at “Roy Hibbert: Season 2.” Is he the next great offensive big man in this league? Is he a potential All-Star? Is he good enough to build around? Is he a starter? Is he a good big off the bench? Is he a slow, non-rebounding bum who will be an also-ran in three years?

Who knows?

To begin delving deeping into “Roy Hibbert: Season 2,” let’s start by comparing him to the rest of his peers statistically. The following are a bunch of numbers to show how Roy stacks up next to all the second-year guys playing in this year’s sophomore game.

Here are the straight production stats per game, broken up into two charts:

per game1

per game2Interesting. From a points and boards perspective, he’s clearly not lighting the world on fire. But as I’m sure you’ve noticed, Roy gets the fewest minutes of any of these guys, so this probably isn’t the ultimate barometer of how he has fared versus the others, even when we factor in that he’s the oldest of the bunch — a notable distinction.

So let’s equalize the minutes and look at the number per-36 minutes:

per 36_1per 36_2Things look better here. His rebounding numbers are still not impressive, but we already knew that. His scoring per-36 also doesn’t suggest that he’s out-pacing his peers, but he is right there with heralded young guys like Danilo, OJ, Westbrook, Love and even Indiana’s own Eric Gordon. The blocks are clearly the most promising category here, and he is significantly better than everyone, including Brook Lopez, who has played well enough this year to make some people even talk about him as an All-Star candidate despite that fact that he plays for perhaps the worst team in NBA history.

Moving on, for those into this type of stuff, here’s how they all stack up according to “advanced stat” metrics:

advancedLooking at PER, everyone aside from the cream of the crop (Brook, Kevin Love and Derrick Rose) is between 15.5 and 16.9. And Roy is right there at 16.1. Roy’s defensive rebound rate of 16.7 is again troubling for a 7’2″ 23-year-old, particularly when we see that he is being bested here by even Michael Beasley — a much shorter, more perimeter-oriented guy who is routinely criticized for his inability to rebound. Then again, these numbers reinforce the fact that Roy has been the best shot-blocker of any second-year player listed here so far this year. But on another negative note, Hibbert also turns the ball over at a disturbing rate.

Something else I find interesting that he’s 5th out of these nine guys in usage, which shows that despite many of us in Pacerland’s complaints, he is actually getting just as many touches as many of his peers, yet is still unable to score as well as as guys like Brook, Beasley, Love or Mayo. This suggest that his shooting percentages need to go up if he wants to become a guy who demands a double team.

So that’s what the numbers say.

We’ll continue looking at “Roy Hibbert: Season 2″ as the year goes on and we’ll have some better qualitative assessments from some other notable NBA minds before the week is out. Look for that later today or tomorrow.

dinosaur

Often described as a dinosaur playing in a league of quicker, smaller mammals, Roy Hibbert’s numbers are in some respects comparable to his draft class. But in other ways, we can clearly see why he is still a step below the others.

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Los Angeles Clippers vs. Indiana Pacers
Conseco Fieldhouse
Indianapolis, Indiana
7:00 PM EST

Pacers vs. Clippers
5-7 (9th) Record 6-9 (10th)
Lost 4 Streak Won 2
-2.25 (19th) Avg Scoring Margin -3.20 (21th)
99.8 (13th) Points Per Game 96.5 (24th)
102.9 (25th) Offensive Rating 103.9 (23rd)
105.2 (14th) Defensive Rating 107.4 (19th)
.480 (23rd) eFG% .499 (14th)
.483 (11th) Opponent's eFG% .483 (11th)
97.1 (2nd) Pace 92.9 (14th)

Glossary: Offensive Rating | Defensive Rating | eFG% | Pace

The easiest thing to do would be to simply cut and paste yesterday’s preview, and change the names to protect the innocent.  However, it’s really hard to find any innocents.  Yesterday, the Pacers were trying to snap a three-game losing streak.  Today, it’s a four-game skein they’re trying to halt.

Over the last two losses, the Pacers have added all around horrible defense to the litany of offense woes I detailed yesterday.  They’ve been particularly badly exploited in pick and rolls, but the failures have not been limited to that.  Rather than launch into a lengthy attempt to rationalize an increasingly irrational situation, I think I’ll just give you some things to look for tonight, and start preparing for Thanksgiving.

  • In the second half last night, Danny returned to his All Star form by scoring 22 points and helping the Pacers to cut 16 points off of a 21-point halftime deficit.  The effort fell short, but the important question is, “Can he do it again?”  He was only 3/12 in the first half, and he’s shot under 40% in 7 of the 12 games this season.
  • Roy Hibbert is expected to return to the line up after seeing only short minutes in the Toronto game.  Matchups were the cause of his limit last night, but that shouldn’t be an issue against the Clippers.  L.A. starts the 7’0″ Chris Kaman and the 6’11″ Marcus Camby on their front line, and bring the 7’0″ DeAndre Jordan off the bench.  O’Brien has been non-committal, though, and it may be a game time decision.
  • Hoosier native Eric Gordon is questionable for tonight’s game with a strained groin that has cause him to miss eight of his team’s 15 games.  He was averaging almost 19 points per night on over 50% shooting before going down.  Rasual Butler has taken his place in the starting lineup.
  • Baron Davis has stayed healthy this year, but he’s still exhibiting that questionable shot selection, shooting a paltry 38% from the floor and 29% from beyond the arc.
  • Surprisingly, the Clippers are led in scoring by Captain Caveman (Chris Kaman).  His 20.5 points a contest nearly doubles his career scoring average, and is almost five points higher than his previous best of 15.7.
  • It won’t be a Dunleavy family holiday tonight, as Junior has elected to sit out a few more games in order to get into better game shape.  He’s currently expected to return sometime during next week’s West Coast road trip.
  • Buckaroo Banzai (Hansbrough) played only 15 minutes last night, despite being cleared to play 22 by the medical staff.  He was pretty effective in his time, so it was a bit of a head scratcher as to why he didn’t play more.  O’Brien later explained that the 22 minutes includes practice time, as well, and some of that had been used up earlier in the day.
  • Tonight is the first a home-and-home series with the Clippers.  They’ll be done with them early this year, as they visit the Staples Center on December 5th.
  • Friday night, the Pacers host Rick Carlisle’s Dallas Mavericks before leaving for a four-game West Coast road trip.  This may be the most forgiving West Coast swing I’ve ever seen, as the Pacers will face three losing teams (Sacramento, Golden State, and the Clippers) and the Utah Jazz, who sit at .500.  Normally, this would be cause for some optimism, but the Pacers are not playing at a level necessary to beat anyone on any floor right now.  Here’s hoping this two-game homestand will change that.

Most importantly, I hope that this holiday weekend finds you and yours safe, happy, and warm.

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Due to reported concerns over the same balky knee that sidelined Granger for several games last season, Danny will not be playing during USA Basketball’s National Team mini-camp, which is scheduled to hold two practices and an intrasquad game in Las Vegas from July 23-25. Danny accepted the invitation for an “opportunity to be considered for the next generation of players who will help make up the USA Basketball National program” back in June, and he will be present along with the other 24 players in Vegas — he just won’t be actually suiting up.

To my knowledge, none of this precludes Danny from playing for Team USA down the line; it just means he’s missing one event. USA Basketball Chairman Jerry Colangelo said the following back in June when the 25 new potential participants were chosen.

“As was the case in 2005-08, the roster for the national team program will be fluid in 2010-2012 and we will make adjustments to the roster each year to help insure we have the strongest program and the strongest teams possible.”

Obviously, Pacer fans should be more concerned with the status of Granger’s knee than they are with a few USA Basketball practices. My thoughts are that this is simply precautionary, as I’ve seen little to suggest the knee is still a significant issue.

I’ll let you know if I hear anything different.

In the meantime, Hoosier fans will be happy to hear that Colangelo has selected none other than former Indiana University star Eric Gordon to play in Granger’s place. (Summer League standout Anthony Randolph of the Golden State Warriors will also now be playing.) Gordon had a great rookie year as Clipper last season, averaging 18.9 ppg on 47.5% shooting (including 41.9% from three) in 25 games after the All-Star break. Overall, Gordon started 65 games for LA’s JV team and Mike Dunleavy, Sr. should be expecting big things from the 20-year-old sharp-shooter.

Then again, the ever-confusing Clippers are reportedly for some unbeknownst reason still seriously considering signing Allen Iverson to play some SG next year as well.

Kevin Arnovitz of Clipperblog / TrueHoop writes:

The Clippers, too, generated buzz this week with the Iverson speculation. While owner Donald Sterling wants to make a splash with Iverson, Clippers management would like to target Ramon Sessions.

With a backcourt already featuring scorers Baron Davis and Eric Gordon, adding AI makes about as much sense as adding ranch dressing and bleu cheese to a sandwich that already has mustard and mayo on it.

Ultimately, who knows what MDJ’s dad is going to end up doing? And when you also throw the enigma that is Donald Sterling in the mix, it’s really not even worth your time to speculate.

granger_380_usa(Image via Pacers.com)

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