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Vogel Interviews with Rockets

by Tim Donahue on May 6, 2011 at 7:40 am · 1 comment

Mike Wells reported this morning that Frank Vogel interviewed with the Houston Rockets Thursday for their open coaching position.  Other the fact of the report, and reminding us via Twitter that Vogel and Rockets Head Daryl Morey were together at Boston (both at much lower levels), there really is not much to report.

This will cause some heartburn for some people, but I’m not overly concerned for a couple of reasons.

First, the Houston Rockets search for a new coach is beginning to look a lot like the opening auditions for American Idol.  Wells gives an abbreviated list:

The Rockets and Rick Adelman parted ways last month. Since then, former Atlanta Hawks coach Mike Woodson, who starred at Broad Ripple High School and Indiana University before an 11-year NBA career; Bucks assistant Kelvin Sampson, a former IU coach; former Nets coach Lawrence Frank, who was an IU student manager; Mario Elie, Kevin McHale and others have interviewed.

The Rockets are seemingly talking to everyone – in fact, you should probably check your voice mail.  So, Frank Vogel talking to Morey is still a long way from a forthcoming offer – or even genuine interest.

I’m also less worried, because I still have doubts about Vogel and would feel more comfortable with a more experienced coach.  Looking back at Alex Yovanovich’s questions:

However, let’s interrupt the euphoria for a moment to ask a few tough questions.

Is the 20-18 finish to the season just a short-term bounce that was not an accurate representation of Vogel’s abilities?

The offense that we saw down the stretch consisted of a few very simple plays and became easy to defend down the stretch of tight games. Does Vogel have a real, cohesive offense that he will install for next year?

What defensive philosophy is Vogel going to adhere to that will best utilize the players on the roster?

Can Vogel be critical of players that don’t perform in big situations? For instance, when Roy Hibbert is close to a no show in four of five playoff games maybe the positive reinforcement simply isn’t working. Would Vogel be willing to jump on Hibbert if that’s what it takes to get him right?

My answers would be:  Yes, maybe, don’t know, I don’t think so.

The schedule over the last three months was easy (2nd easiest SoSHR in the league), and there were enough red flags during that time to dampen my overall enthusiasm.  I’m not saying definitively that Vogel should not get the job.  I’m just saying I wouldn’t be heartbroken to see someone else chosen.

But, hey…whoever is chosen as coach is less important than a lot of things this summer – including what new players the Pacers can bring in and what happens with the CBA.  We’ll find out about those soon, though probably not soon enough for my (or anyone else’s) taste.

Rockets head coaching candidates for Friday interviews.  They may be disappointed, though, as I hear Morey really loved Kelvin Sampson’s rendition of “She Bangs.”

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On my NBA-wide site Both Teams Played Hard, I have just introduced the pilot episode of a new video series called All in the Game. The goal will be to break down some of the finer points of NBA basketball and hopefully have a little fun in the process.

For Episode 1, I focused on the Roy Hibbert/Brad Miller matchup last Friday. It was pretty ugly to watch the big fella guard Brad live. It was even worse watching clips over and over in slow-mo while making the video.

Obviously, Roy isn’t this bad on D normally — Miller just presents a very tough cover for him and he never really got a feel for how to play him. Honestly, he really should have made some adjustments. It was pretty bad. So while I know plenty of fans questioned why Roy wouldn’t be playing late in the fourth considering he had played so well offensively, it’s hard to fault Coach O’Brien for saying “enough is enough” and throwing Josh McRoberts out there so that Houston couldn’t continue to exploit the Miller/Hibbert matchup.

But enough from me.

Judge for yourself.

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Houston Rockets @ Indiana Pacers
Friday, November 12, 2010
7:00 pm EST
Conseco Fieldhouse
Indianapolis, Indiana

Yao Ming

An all-too-familiar sight that will play out again similarly tonight. (Photo by Bill Baptist/NBAE via Getty Images)

The 2010-11 Houston Rockets are struuuuuggggling. And not only have they fallen to 1-6 on the the year after getting smacked around by the lowly Wizards on Wednesday, the team’s best player has fallen to an ankle sprain and will not playing tonight.

Even though Yao Ming has been on a minute-restriction and in still-recuperating form so far this year, I was actually looking forward to watching him and Roy Hibbert go toe-to-toe. Roy tends to play rather well against traditional bigs (see: Duncan, Timmy; Howard, Dwight) and it’s always fun to see a couple of giants clash.

That said, it’s obviously way better for Indy that Yao will be in street clothes this evening. Perhaps better still, the Pacers have actually had the Rockets’ number for a while now, beating Houston four times straight dating back to November 8.

To recap, we have (a) No Yao, (b) a recent history of success Pacers success, (c) a struggling Houston team (with an even worse defense) and (d) an Indy squad likely still riding high after putting together one of the best quarters in NBA history.

I like those odds.

A few other Houston notes:

  • They have the 28th “best” defense in the NBA so far. They also have been playing at the 2nd fastest pace. The Pacers have been near the top of the league in shot attempts per game themselves ever since Coach Jim O’Brien showed up so the combination of all this likely means that if the Pacers can get good shots, there should be enough possessions that they will be able to exploit a porous defense — even if they struggle shooting-wise a little bit.
  • Kevin Martin has been playing excellent ball, averaging 24.1 ppg on 48% shooting (plus 40% from three and 89.1% from the line). It’s this type of ballin’ that earned him coveted standing among the advanced stat community — and Rockets GM Daryl Morey. Stopping Kevin will be a challenge for all the Pacers wings who get a shot. I’m hoping we get to see what Paul George can do to slow down such a savvy scorer.
  • Luis Scola has been scoring, rebounding, getting to the line and even setting up teammates well this season. He’s coming off back-to-back 24-point nights and already had a 36-point game earlier this year. He’s also had two games where he got to the line 17 and 12 times, and two 16-rebound performances. Some one on the Pacers is going to want to make sure these things don’t happen.
  • Slim Chin is going to LOOOVE the Aaron Brooks Brad Miller/Darren Collison matchup. UPDATE: Was reminded by the comments that I’m really dumb. Was just so eager to finally remember to link to Slim Chin in relation to Darren that I forgot to think first. Apologies. Brad’s faster anyway.

Pacers vs. Rockets – By the Numbers

Rockets @ Pacers
1-6 (14th) Overall Record (Conf Rank) 3-3 (6th)
0-4 Home / Road Records 2-1
Lost 1 Current Streak Won 1
1-4 Last 5 Head-to-Head 4-1
-1.57 (18th) Avg Scoring Margin +0.67 (14th)
108.7 (8th) Offensive Rating 107.3 (10th)
50.1% (13th) eFG% 51.3% (9th)
110.3 (28th) Defensive Rating 106.6 (14th)
48.4% (11th) Opponent's eFG% 48.6% (12th)
98.8 (2nd) Pace 96.5 (8th)

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On Wednesday afternoon, the Houston Rockets, New Orleans Hornets, Indiana Pacers, and New Jersey Nets pulled off a four-team blockbuster, swapping several key contributors.

Rahat Huq of Red94, Ryan Schwan of Hornets247, Sebastian Pruiti of Nets are Scorching and I all got together to provide assessments of the outgoing players from their respective ballclubs.

Rahat Huq of Red94 on Trevor Ariza

I’ve written a comprehensive series of essays on Trevor Ariza entitled ‘Assessing Ariza,’ evaluating his strengths, weaknesses, and player potential.  (Parts 1, 2, and 3)

In short, he’s an ideal role-player who thrives off the ball, spotting up or using his superior athleticism to slash to the basket.  Now having the benefit of playing next to Chris Paul, I expect Ariza to return to form from his playoff run with the Lakers – he really took off after the acquisition of Kevin Martin; Ariza is at his best playing next to dominant players.

If you’re hoping Trevor will grow into his physical gifts and emerge as a primary option, you’re going to be disappointed.  While a capable ball-handler against light pressure, he doesn’t have the handles to create for himself off the dribble.  He also has extremely poor footwork and body control.  Even worse, Ariza has an oddly inflated sense of entitlement–possibly due to his Lakers pedigree–leading him to force bad shots and make poor decisions; Ariza struggles when needing to think on the basketball court.

The issue of Ariza’s defense is a contentious one.  His reputation precedes him, but his is a reckless, instinctual approach, garnering him gaudy steals totals but often leaving his teammates scrambling to rotate after blown coverage.  Still, this manner can be conducive to forcing tempo if that’s your cup of tea.

All in all, assuming expectations remain reasonable, I think the Hornets will be very pleased next year with Trevor Ariza.  While his struggles with the Rockets are well documented, playing next to Chris Paul is a situation tailor-made for a player of Trevor’s skillset and abilities – in returning to his former role with the Lakers (next to a superstar guard), I think Trevor will really thrive.

Ryan Schwan of Hornets247 on Darren Collison

After watching him for a season, I’m comfortable claiming that Darren Collison is the proud owner of the “fastest man in the NBA” title.   When he played, the Hornets pace increased by five possessions, as he exploded up court every chance he could.  Considering the heavy-footed players he was dragging with him up the court, it is a pretty amazing feat.

Collison started off his rookie season pretty rough, shooting poorly from deep, and struggling valiantly to figure out how to score over the faster, taller athletes he met in the paint.  In fact, for the first month, a pick and roll run by Collison typically had very little going for it.  That all changed, however, when Chris Paul went down.  Given long minutes, constant coaching by Paul, and confidence that never seemed to waver, Collison started deploying a stutter step and mid-range pull up jumper that made him deadly on the pick and roll by the end of February.  His long-range shot, which was amazing in college, began to settle in, and soon he was deadly from three, both as a spot-up shooter, and as a guy who could pull up off the dribble and knock it down.

As a passer, Collison is excellent in the open court, solid at the pick and roll, but tends to struggle in the pick and pop.  He’s great at driving into the paint and laying the ball off to a big man for a dunk or finding the roller, but when he has to find the open men on the perimeter, he still can get into trouble.  As a result, though he gets a lot of assists, he also gets a lot of turnovers.  He also has the tendency to be called for a carry once or twice a game, though that was fading by the end of last season.

Defensively is where Collison has his biggest problems.  He makes Allen Iverson look fat – and unlike mighty mouse Chris Paul, he’s also not physically strong at all.  That leaves him to be exploited terribly in post ups, and because of his lightness, a good screen or series of screens can take him out the picture on defense despite his recovery speed.

As a team leader, Collison was remarkable.  He was barking commands to veterans like Okafor and David West from the start of the season.  On more than one occasion I saw him get on teammates for not being where they were supposed to be.  He’s intelligent, knows how to get a team into its offense, and it shows.  He’s also cold-blooded.  He had two game-winning shots last season, and another three that put a nail in a run the other team was making to come back.  He doesn’t shy from that big shot – and he has a decent track record of making it.

In the end, I feel Collison will be an exciting-as-hell, explosive scorer in the mold of Tony Parker, and most nights will outscore his opponent.  At the same time, I’d also expect his opponent to regularly score more than is usual.

Sebastian Pruiti of Nets are Scorching on Courtney Lee

Courtney Lee is a guy I like and with Avery Johnson coming to New Jersey, I thought he was the perfect Avery Johnson guy.  He shoots the three ok (last years numbers are too low for his shooting ability in my honest opinion), he can penetrate and get out and run, but where he is most valuable is on the defensive end.  Courtney is both a very good one on one and team defender, and he works very hard on that end.  Lee doesn’t have a high ceiling  (and that is why I suspect that the Nets held onto Terrence Williams), and the player he is now is the player he will be years from now.  That’s not a bad thing, but there is very little room for him to grow.

Me on Troy Murphy

Offensively: The short answer is that Murph is a 6’11″ Steve Kerr.  He is an extremely efficient scorer, and serves as a safety valve for the offense.  I can see him being a very nice player with your personnel, offensively, as he is a low-usage guy.  The Pacers use him to float at the top of the key, and he took all but like 10 of his three’s from the arc (very few corner threes).  He has no post game to speak of, and he’s a solid passer, but not a great high post guy.

He does a good job of reading his defender, and is very good at reading the closeout, putting the ball on the floor and finishing at the rim.  He doesn’t get many offensive rebounds because of (a) where he plays and (b) his lack of footspeed, but could get more if he played closer to the basket.  However, I think you’d be an absolute fool to play him — offensively — in any other way than the way O’Brien used him.  Look at his eFG and TS numbers the last three years under Obie vs. his time in GS.  He plays completely within his skill set (almost to a fault), and I have never — never — seen a guy with better shot selection than Troy.  Very, very nice complementary shooter to have on your team.

Defensively: He is definitely a liability, and that is because he’s slow and physically weak.  He gets lots of defensive rebounds, but he doesn’t really control the glass the way most guys who pull down the volume of boards he gets.  He is not a block out guy, but has a good nose for the ball.  One-on-one he will never be better than, well, bad, but he can learn and will follow team defensive concepts.  In other words, if the opponent decides to target him, then he’ll get beaten, but he won’t blow defensive team schemes.  Overall, your team’s defensive performance will drag when he’s on the floor.

Lockerroom and Fit: He appears likable enough, but not really a presence.  Seems to get along with everybody well enough.  There were rumors last year that he wasn’t happy about Hansbrough eating into his playing time, but they were way external to the organization and I never believed them.  As far as fitting with your big guys, he should be a great fit with both Lopez and Favors offensively, and probably a poor fit defensively with Lopez, but pretty good with Favors – assuming I’ve got a reasonable handle on their respective games.

Here’s the most important part – you can’t look at the 14 & 11 and think he’s that traditional double-double guy.  He is very much someone who accentuates his positives, but doesn’t improve on his negatives.  He is not a physical player, at all.  He is who he is, but that can be a good thing.  Assuming Avery doesn’t choke on his defense, I suspect he’ll love the guy because he is perhaps the most reliably consistent player I’ve seen in three-plus decades of watching the NBA.

He will hit shots, he will get some boards, and he will suck on defense.

He will score, but he is a safety valve – not a primary or secondary option.  It sounds strange, but I think coaches like that because it’s something they don’t have to worry about.  They put him out there, and work on everything else.   This is why he can have some big games and not really make a difference.  He’s kind of a like an offensive lineman.  He can have a great  individual game, but if the rest of the line sucks, it won’t matter.  At the same time, if he’s great and the rest of the line is great, nobody will notice him.

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