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If the rotation stopped rotating it couldn’t really be a rotation now could it?

What? I don’t know. This has been a busy day in Pacers town. I’m on fumes.

Here’s the latest from Mike Wells.

It’s gotten to the point where it’s not “if” Indiana Pacers swingman Brandon Rush will drift in and out, but a matter of “when.”

Rush is currently in one of those moments and it appears it could cost him a spot in the rotation.

Pacers coach Jim O’Brien said rookie Paul George is close to bumping out Rush as either the first wing off the bench or the starting shooting guard, depending on the opponent.

“The decision that I have to make is when do I move Paul definitely in front of Brandon,” O’Brien said. “That’s coming if we keep getting sporadic play.”

Brandon Rush is shooting 38.3% on his way to a whopping 8.6 ppg in 10 January games, so this isn’t a huge shock. He isn’t even playing particularly good defense either. If he’s not going to make shots or stop penetration, he really isn’t bringing anything to the table.

Paul George, on the other hand, has what appears to be a versatile skill set: he can make some dribble moves in isolation, bring the ball up the court, get out on the break, make some jumpers, slash, dunk and even play a little defense. And while he is also rather inconsistent and clearly blows some assignments, he’s a rookie so that’s expected. Brandon can’t use that excuse anymore as much as he would like some way to explain his baffling fluctuations between looking like decent player and D-League also-ran.

Even Coach Jim O’Brien is having to come up with unique ways to describe whatever it is that goes through Rush’s head, saying that the fact that Brandon “drifts in and out” is what has him poised to pull the trigger on making George the first SG off the bench (or perhaps even the starter Wells insinuates).

AJ Price is also now officially the second string PG.

Second-year point guard A.J. Price has replaced veteran T.J. Ford as the team’s backup point guard. Although he has looked rusty in his first few games, Price said he’s ready to keep the position.

Stay tuned tomorrow to see what changes next.

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Is Jim O’Brien a Lame Duck Coach?

by Jared Wade on January 22, 2011 at 5:24 pm · 5 comments

Jim O’Brien’s rotation is cryptic, the rationale behind which is known seemingly only to him.

To outsiders, there often seems to be little rhyme or reason as to why, for example, marquee offseason acquisition Darren Collison was often watching TJ Ford close out games early in the year (and even as recently at 1/2/2011 watch TJ get the bulk of the meaningful fourth quarter time against the Knicks). Or why a guy like Tyler Hansbrough can have a 20-point/9-rebound game (on 9/12 shooting) in 29 minutes during the Pacers sixth game of the season and then get 11 minutes (with 0 fouls) in the seventh. Or why Roy Hibbert’s crunch-time minutes were often jerked around early in the year. (It may be hard, but think back to the time when he actually, ya know, deserved minutes based upon his performance.) Or why James Posey (a) very often has been leaned on to play power forward in crucial situations only to (b) pick up 2 DNP-CDs in the past five games. Or why when Roy Hibbert got sick and couldn’t play against the Warriors on Wednesday, Josh McRoberts, recipient of DNP-CDs in 6 of his previous 7 games, got the start.

The rationale for the last decision, I’ve been told by 8p9s partner-in-crime Tim Donahue, was so Jeff Foster could “finish” the game without going over his 30-minute maximum.

I’m sure there are also some reasons for the others listed (and the other curiosities that I didn’t mention). I imagine many of them have to do with players blowing defensive assignments, players not running the floor poorly, players not understanding the offense, players not spacing the floor properly and players simply just not doing their jobs. There are all sorts Xs-and-Os particulars that I have no problem admitting in public that are simply over my head.

And some things are more explainable, like AJ Price leapfrogging the struggling TJ Ford (shooting 30.6% in the new year) as the first point guard off the bench in Wednesday’s loss to the Warriors. (AJ’s poor play may have made that a quick experiment in trial and error, however.)  Similarly, it’s hard to fault anyone for Roy Hibbert’s inconsistent role in the rotation since his post-November productivity swoon reached crisis-level status (some of which has also been “can’t-stop-fouling-related,” it’s important to note).

Still, even with that caveat and another HUGE one (the complete understanding that I have of this roster’s relative parity of talent after Danny Granger, Collison and Hibbert), the rotation is weird — and it has been all season. I also fully get it that aside from Granger, Dunleavy and Rush, there has been almost no consistency from the rest of the roster this year. (Because so much of Dunleavy’s value in a game is decided by whether or not he misses or makes shots and because I’m talking about Brandon frickin’ Rush, let me doubly punctuate my empathy for a coach having to rely on anyone on this roster every night … Danny included. UPDATE: Also Jeff Foster, who I forgot to include originally as an oversight.)

But, really, at some point things need to settle down. A lot of these players we are discussing are suited to be 8th and 9th men in this league. They have some skills but they are just not super talented. Used effectively, they can help out, (I think … most of the time at least) but if they don’t have any idea what their actual roles on this club are, then is it really surprising that they so often fail to fulfill them? Don’t players, particularly mediocre players, need a defined job to do before anyone can really expect them to do it well?

Perhaps most importantly in regards to the title of this post, does the coach even know what those roles are? Because, ya know, it is almost February.

According to a report last night on TrueHoop by Chris Broussard, I’m not the first to start asking these questions. (And, yes, fans, I know many of you have been beating this drum for like three years now.)

Indiana Pacers brass is not pleased with the performance of head coach Jim O’Brien, according to several league sources.

That said, O’Brien, who is in the last year of his contract, is likely to remain as coach the rest of the season. Part of the reason is that no one on O’Brien’s staff — Dan Burke, Frank Vogel, Jay DeFruscio, Vitaly Potapenko and Walter McCarty — is viewed as a suitable replacement.

One complaint about O’Brien is the strange way he divvies up minutes: Tyler Hansbrough plays 36 minutes one night, posting 23 points and 12 rebounds, and just 23 minutes the next; Paul George plays 21 minutes one night, four the next.

GM David Morway could also be in trouble after the season, and league scuttlebutt has former Portland GM Kevin Pritchard as a likely replacement. Pritchard was close to being hired as the replacement for Rod Thorn in New Jersey, but the Nets, of course, settled on Billy King.

As an outsider, I have no inside information, so I’ll leave it at that other than to point out that it’s not just the rotation stuff that has been curious at times, but also the coach’s tone in the press (mostly earlier in the year).

And I will also say that I’ve always been a big fan of Kevin Pritchard and am curious as to why he doesn’t have a job yet. The rumors surrounding his exit from Portland made it seem as though he was a strong-headed decision-maker who enjoyed his authority. That could mean he might have trouble meshing with a guy like Larry Bird (who is also on the last year of his contract, something not noted here by Brossard).

UPDATE: Forgot to note that Pritchard was traveling with the Pacers for the start of this road trip.

Ben Golliver of CBS Facts and Rumors added this about Pritch:

A Moneyball-style GM like Pritchard would make a ton of sense in Indiana, as his understanding of advanced statistics, analytics and cap management is generally seen as the surest way for a small-market team to get the maximum bang for their buck and narrow the gap between the LA’s and New York’s of the world. Pritchard’s name will likely generate a lot of interest this summer, as he and TNT commentator Steve Kerr are the two biggest names among former GMs that are not currently employed in that capacity.

I listened to him speak last year at MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference (and briefly talked to him personally on the matter), and he certainly does know his advanced stats.

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Indiana Pacers @ Washington Wizards
Wednesday, December 29, 2010
7:00 pm EST
Verizon Center
Washington, DC

OK, Roy. It’s time to get it together. Really, it’s past time to get it together. You have played atrociously for the better part of a month now, and your offensive performance since December 11 has been an utter joke. No guy with your size, footwork and touch around the hoop should be capable of shooting 34-for-107 (32%) over an eight-game stretch. Thirty-two percent. Seriously? Even John Salmons is laughing at you. (h/t Mike Wells)

Danny Granger, you haven’t been much better. Only twice have you shot above 40% in a game during December. Twice. Two times. Overall, you’re shooting 36% for the month and a miserable 27.8% from three. As with Roy’s shooting woes, such a number seems impossible for you to shoot for this long. Moreover, it is almost amazing in a you-ate-a-whole-wheel-of-cheese kind of way that you continue to launch so many treys even while converting at a Marquis Daniels-level success rate. But sure enough, only twice have you chucked up fewer than 5 three-pointers in your last 13 games (and make that 20 games dating back to November, during which you were admittedly shooting well). I will give you credit for attacking the paint a little more; you have gotten to the line an average of 8.5 times per night over your last four games. But you are also 26-for-83 (31.3%) from the floor over that same stretch, so let’s not break out the leftover spiked eggnog and start testing the New Year’s noisemakers in celebration just yet.

How about you, Darren Collison? What is it you would say you do out there? It’s December 28 and you haven’t even recorded 8 assists in a single game. Not one. Zero times. And you haven’t scored more than 18 points in a game since November 9. You had 12 games of 20 or more last year after the All-Star break alone. Are you OK? Would you like to talk about it?

We can keep piling on the coach. He deserves a lot of criticism. Bob Kravitz just handed out a bunch and it’s hard to come up with many counterpoints. God knows a lot of the things the coach of this team does seem nonsensical.

But at the end of the day, if you three guys don’t play better on offense — scoring points, shooting at at least league-average rates, set up your teammates for buckets, create easy points at the line — this team just is not going to win many games. There isn’t any coach that can do anything about how your playing other than, “Hey you … yeah, you three guys … the best three players on my team … stop playing unfathomably terrible basketball.”

Tonight — and again on Friday — you play the Wizards, the worst teams in the Eastern Conference. If you can get things back on track in these two games, fans will be able to regain some of that early-season hope that had you looking like a team that might be a tough out in the first round of the playoffs.

If not?

Well, I’m not 100% sure you guys will even make the playoffs anymore.

Pacers vs. Wizards By the Numbers

Wizards vs Pacers
7-22 (15th) Record (Conf Rank) 13-16 (7th)
7-7 (Home) Home / Road Records 5-8 (Road)
Lost 3 Current Streak Lost 2
1-4 Last 5 Head-to-Head 4-1
-6.97 (28th) Point Differential (Rank) -0.41 (17th)
102.1 (25th) Offensive Rating (Rank) 102.4 (24th)
47.1% (26th) eFG% (Rank) 48.7% (20th)
109.5 (24th) Defensive Rating (Rank) 102.9 (8th)
51.2 (25th) Opponent's eFG% (Rank) 47.2% (4th)
93.2 (10th) Pace (Rank) 94.6 (7th)

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When Dunleavy Starts and When Rush Starts

by Jared Wade on December 24, 2010 at 11:21 am · 3 comments

We have already been over the fact that this year’s Pacers team doesn’t actually have a starting shooting guard. That doesn’t mean that Indiana only starts four players; it just means that the roster features two guys, Mike Dunleavy and Brandon Rush, who might be on the court during tip-off one night or another depending on match-ups or, presumably, their recent play. But neither can ever be sure he will get the start very far in advance.

When do they find out though, wondered Andrew Perna of Real GM, who rightly speculated that can cause some uncertainty for the players as they prepare?

With the pair switching roles so often, I wondered how much of a warning O’Brien gives them heading into each game.

“He’ll usually tell us in shootaround the day before, but it doesn’t really matter,” Dunleavy said.

Just to be sure, I asked Rush the same question. He corroborated with Dunleavy’s answer.

“We’ll know the day before the game or sometimes during a morning shootaround,” Rush said.

So it sounds like the guys have learned to deal with the situation.

With that cleared up, Perna decided to investigate just how well the team has fared depending on who opens the game — something our own Tim Donahue broke down not too long ago.

When Dunleavy starts over Rush, Indiana is 10-9. As would be expected he averages more points (12.8 to 10.3), rebounds (5.8 to 4.0) and minutes (32.4 to 24.1) when he’s on the floor first. However, he shoots the ball at a 53.3% clip when coming off the bench as opposed to just 43.2% as a starter.

The Pacers are 3-4 with Rush opening the curtain and his numbers fall in line with what you’d expect as well. His points (14.5 to 11.1) and rebounds (4.1 to 3.6) are greater in his starts, but his minutes are more consistent than Dunleavy’s (34.1 to 28.0). Unlike Mike, he shoots better (47.9% to 44.4%) as a starter.

Those are the blunt numbers. Here he lists some others.

Indiana has an offensive rating of 105.7 in Dunleavy’s starts and 102.5 in Rush’s.

You’d expect the opposite to be true of their defensive rating, but the Pacers have a 103.5 defensive rating with Dunleavy as the No. 1 two-guard and a 104.3 rating with Rush. It will be interesting to see if this remains the case as the season progresses.

These are not all that much more precise considering we’re still talking about the whole 48 minutes in games they start and not just the time that each individual is on the court. (Not that that would be perfect either.) Regardless, I’m sure we will be taking a closer look at this again soon after we get a larger sample of games.

Still, the idea that they are essentially interchangeable and that neither has “earned” the starter role more than the other guy remains pretty accurate.

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