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Breaking Down Andrew Bogut’s Tip-In

by Jared Wade on December 9, 2010 at 12:10 pm · 5 comments

Sebastian Pruiti did a quick breakdown of the Bogut tip-in last night over at NBA Playbook. Again, more than anything, I believe this was just a really, really, really good play by the Bucks. Luc Mbah a Moute’s pass was picture perfect, Brandon Jennings set a great screen and even though Jeff Foster was able to recover and challenge the finish, Andrew Bogut simply elevated and guided the ball through the hoop with precision.

You couldn’t draw it up any prettier. And you probably couldn’t replicate the execution.

Pruiti does take issue with the defensive strategy, however, primarily questioning the team’s decision to not either (a) play zone, or (b) put the 7’2″ Roy Hibbert beneath the hoop to protect the cup.

the Pacers didn’t think it was important to protect the rim with their big man.  Jim O’Brien would much rather have him on the basketball trying to bother the pass.  Now, I agree with the philosophy of having a big man defending the inbounds pass when it is obvious that the inbounder is going to make a pass to a shooter on the outside.  There, a center’s length can bother the pass, cause the pass to be off the mark, and maybe force a miss.

But when it is painfully obvious that there is going to be a lob play (less than 1 second left), why do coaches insist on having their centers play 45 feet away from the rim?  Their reasoning is that they want to bother the pass, but do centers really have that much of an effect?  Andrew Bogut and Brandon Jennings both said they practice this play every day, and presumably the same guy is practicing the actual pass over and over, so is a center there really going to effect him?  I personally think that a center standing at the rim (remember, because the ball [isn't] in play, defensive three seconds isn’t a factor) bothers the pass more than if he [is] covering the inbounder.

In this situation, I understand why Jim O’Brien would put Foster, a guy who is theoretically the team’s best one-on-one post defender, on Bogut. But with 0.5 seconds left, you do know that they are probably going to try a lob. If the ball is likely headed to the rim, Foster’s better quickness at fighting through screens is less important since Roy could easily just stand closer to the rim and “play the ball” more so than the man. Why not just plant him below the hoop and let Hibbert volleyball spike away any pass that may be headed towards the rim?

Devil’s advocate part two, however, are we really sure that, even this season, Roy can be trusted not to foul there? Foster stayed with Bogut and challenged the shot — he just couldn’t elevate with the Australian. But he did manage not to foul, which is pretty major there.

Ultimately, this is a play that probably won’t work more than 10% of the time simply because everything has to go perfectly. By fouling while trying to protect the rim, you allow them to win the game without everything going perfectly. That would probably be even more heart-breaking. At least this way you can dop your cap to the opponent and say “Fantastic work, sir” rather than kicking yourself.

Also, I have to think that putting a 7’2″ guy in front of the passer can potentially disrupt the pass more so than putting a 6’10″ guy in front of him — no matter how many times the guy has practiced the throw in an empty gym. Maybe putting the smaller Solomon Jones on the inbounder has the same effect, but I think it’s just good strategy to put one of your tallest guys on the ball. One more way to help ensure everything doesn’t go perfectly.

I do like the zone idea though, I think.

Maybe next time they can try that.

And then when the inbounds pass goes to a guard on the perimeter and he hits a Derek Fisher-style prayer, we can question the logic of not protecting the outside.

In conclusion, helluva play, Scott Skiles.

UPDATE: Henry Abbott of TrueHoop talked about this play with basketball smart guy David Thorpe, who was mostly perturbed with the fact that Foster was sticking too close to Bogut even before the screen, as if the proposition of the 7-footer catching and shooting from 18 feet was a big threat.

I called David Thorpe to ask him what he would have had Jeff Foster, Hibbert’s replacement, do on this play. It’s tough to keep a seven-footer like Bogut from getting a hand up by the rim.

His response is that Foster made a glaring error in his starting position, before the ball is even inbounded: “The whole team looks more concerned about the catch-and-shoot. See how they’re hugging their guys, all over the court? The last thing you want to give up is a seven-footer — and not just any seven-footer, but a former top overall pick — at the rim. He’s hugging Bogut 18-feet from the hoop, but what’s the threat there? The real threat is at the rim.”

Foster made himself easy to back-screen, because it was clear the whole time exactly where he would be — attached to Bogut. And the screen prevented him from having the freedom and timing to elevate and meet the ball.

Food for thought.

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By now, you probably saw the amazing, last-second play in which a miraculous pass from Luc Mbah a Moute was tipped in by Andrew Bogut to beat the Pacers. There was only 0.5 seconds left and the score was tied. Indiana likely thought they would play a half-second of defense and then head to overtime, but Bogut had other ideas.

Here it is.

There’s really not a whole lot else to say. Roy Hibbert badly airballed an open shot from the elbow on the previous play that would have put the Pacers ahead by two. Danny Granger hit a huge jumper shortly before that.

Otherwise? It was a sloppy game in which Indiana gave up an insane number of offensive boards, allowing a Bucks team that was shooting horrendously to not only stay in the game but lead by double-digits in the first half.

The Pacers played better after the break, gaining and then relinquishing the lead on several occasions. In the final minute, it really looked like this might be another game in which the team could play ugly and still win — on the road (much like last week’s victory over the Kings).

But, again, Bogut had other ideas.

You can pick apart the Pacers poor play here — and we very well might tomorrow — but for tonight, I’m just going to tip my cap to the Australian, Brandon Jennings (who set the pick on Jeff Foster) and, mostly, Mbah a Moute for executing a play perfectly.

You can also read more on the game from The Indy Star, IndyCornrows, Bucksketball and BrewHoop.

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Game #36 Preview: Hopeful in OKC

by Jared Wade on January 9, 2010 at 5:43 pm · 0 comments

Indiana Pacers @ Minnesota Timberwolves
Saturday, January 9
8:00 PM EST
Ford Center
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

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After somehow losing to the Timberwolves last night, the Pacers are now on an 8-game road losing streak that dates back to December 12. Those Indy fans who haven’t been paying attention, might think that Oklahoma City isn’t the worst place to try to break that stretch of failure.

And, on paper, it’s not. The Thunder are only slightly above .500 at home (9-8) and they’ve lost 2 of their last 3 overall (falling to the Bucks and Hornets while beating the Bulls).

Still, the Thunder are currently 19-16 overall and sitting in the highly coveted 8th seed in the highly competitive Western Conference. (They’re sitting there uncomfortably, with Nawlins, Utah and Memphis nipping at their heels, but they’re still sitting there.)

More relevant to tonight, OKC has made a habit of beating the teams they are supposed to beat. The Milwaukee loss they had to open the New Year the other day notwithstanding, it’s pretty hard to beat The Kevin Durant Army unless you’re actually a better team then they are — mainly because they play good defense almost every night and have enough weapons on the other end to outscore their opponent. The first piece of evidence for that proclamation is that they went 9-6 in December. Really though, that is about what you would expect from a team that is 19-16 for the year.

But if you look deeper and examine their actual opponents in those losses, you see what I’m talking about.

The only teams that beat OKC in December were Boston, Cleveland, Denver, Dallas, Houston and the Lakers. All six of those teams are in the Top 11 in the NBA recordwise, (ranking 3rd, 2nd, 7th, 4th, 11th and 1st, respectively), and all but the Rockets are considered likely Conference Finals participants.

The hope for Indy comes in that the Thunder, in 2010, have already stumbled against the Bucks (15-18, which is good for 19th in the NBA) and the Hornets (18-16, good for 14th in the NBA).

Does this mean they will lose to a Pacers team that has the 26th best record (11-24) in the NBA? Particularly considering that Indy is on the second night of a back-to-back and just flew in from Minnesota? And considering that the Thunder haven’t played since Wednesday and have been sleeping in their own beds at home since Tuesday?

I’ll just play the objective journalist card on this one and leave the speculation up to you.

(And if you need anything else to think about, consider that the Thunder are the 3rd best team in the NBA in terms of FG% defense, only allowing 44.0% shooting by the other team, and the Pacers are 27th in the league in shooting at 43.2%. Those two facts combine to heighten the chances that we see — yet another — sub-40% shooting night out of Indy.)

Five Other Things

(1) Kevin Durant is 4th in the league in scoring at 28.4 ppg. Who are the three guys ahead of him? Kobe, Carmelo and LeBron. And KD has a better FG% and RPG number than two of them. Then again, he also averages more turnovers per game than all of them with 3.9 an outing, which makes him 3rd overall in the league in that category behind only two guys who have the ball in their hands waaaay more than he does (Steve Nash and Monta Ellis). Still, Durant is on the cusp of being in that Top 5-8 in the league discussion. Not quite there (without looking, I would slot him around 12th best in the NBA), but getting there. Also, 22 years old.

(2) Aside from one monster game in a win against Chicago where he dropped 29 points on 13/24 shooting, Russell Westbrook has been in a huge slump over the last few games. Take that game out and he is otherwise shooting 32.9% and going 23/70 from the field in his 5 last games. Meanwhile, he has still taken at least 12 shots in all of those games, so the Pacers should hope that he starts shooting — and missing — early and often.

(3)  I don’t have any stats for this one, but Thabo Sefolosha is one hell of a defender. He doesn’t do anything flashy, but he denies the ball well, chases around screens and the guy he’s guarding tends to miss a lot of shots. (Because of that and since he’s from Switzerland, I call him Swiss Miss.) He’s everything that Brandon Rush is not on the defensive end. (See also: Milwaukee’s Luc Richard Mbah a Moute. Love that dude. And, yes, I know both of these guys are a little bigger than Brandon.) Getting better perimeter defense is a quick way that a team can get a lot better. Wonder what haven’t good perimeter D is like? I sorta remember the Derrick McKey years, I guess.

(4) The Thunder just acquired Eric Maynor from the Jazz by essentially just agreeing to pay Matt Harpring not to play. The Jazz needed to cut payroll and the under-the-cap Thunder were the beneficiaries of a nice young PG who I really wanted the Pacers to go after in the Draft. (Disclaimer: I barely watch any NCAA hoops.) Eric is still assimilating into his back-up PG role in OKC, but he looked pretty good last time he played the Pacers with 6 assists in 14 minutes off the bench for Utah.

(5) James Harden has perhaps the second best beard in the league behind only Baron Davis. Pretty impressive debut for a rookie.

Pacers vs. Loud Noises During a Storm

Pacers @ Thunder
11-24 (13th) Overall Record (Conf Rank) 19-16 (8th)
3-15 (Road) Home / Road Records 9-8 (Home)
2-8 Record Last 10 Games 6-4
Lost 1 Current Streak Lost 1
3-2 Last 5 Head-to-Head 2-3
-5.91 (28th) Avg Scoring Margin + 1.97 (12th)
97.9 (21st) Points Per Game 98.1 (18th)
100.6 (27th) Offensive Rating 106.0 (20th)
43.2% (27th) FG% 45.5% (17th)
47.3% (25th) eFG% 48.7% (22nd)
103.8 (24th) Opponent's PPG 96.1 (6th)
106.7 (16th) Defensive Rating 103.9 (7th)
45.3% (12th) Opponent's FG% 44.0% (3rd)
48.8% (11th) Opponent's eFG% 47.6% (4th)
97.3 (2nd) Pace 92.0 (19th)

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