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The Pacers Cut Magnum Rolle

by Jared Wade on October 25, 2010 at 4:57 pm · 3 comments

The Pacers had until 6 pm today to shave their roster down from 16 to a league-mandated maximum of 15 players. And according to Mike Wells, Magnum Rolle was the casualty.

He tweeted:

The Pacers have released Magnum Rolle, according to a source.

He also elaborated on the terms of the release, noting that while Rolle would have gotten about $500,000 this season, he only gets $50,000 now since his deal had not yet become fully guaranteed. Magnum, and many Pacers fans who were impressed with the 24-year-old baller from the Bahamas who the Thunder took with the 51st pick in the draft in June and then traded to Indiana, obviously must be disappointed.

In Wells’ piece from earlier today, Larry Bird offered his thoughts on the unfortunate reality that loomed ahead.

“Having to release a guy, if it comes to that, is just part of things,” Pacers president Larry Bird said. “(Coach) Jim (O’Brien) could end up playing a lot of guys this season. I always like to stay at 14 guys, but it seems like we’ll be at 15 this year.

The Pacers have had no success trying to package Dahntay Jones and Solomon Jones in a two-for-one trade.

Good luck elsewhere, Magnum.

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“Get my agent on the phone.”

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According to Woj, TJ has played his last game as a Pacer and will soon be sent on his way — carrying a big, fat check. (h/t Pacers Digest)

The Pacers are negotiating a buyout with T.J. Ford’s agent on the $8.5 million owed the point guard this season, league sources tell Y!.

This makes sense.

With Darren Collison and James Posey incoming and only Troy Murphy outgoing in the four-team trade just completed, the Pacers would be at the 15-man roster maximum. The word is that they would still like to sign 2010 second round draft pick Magnum Rolle, however. Buying out TJ would give them the flexibility to still do that — or something else — and it seems as if any attempt to trade TJ for something of any value has become futile.

So better to just buy out the diminutive, inconsistent point guard rather than try to crowbar his $8.5 million expiring contract into some deal that brings back some long-term contract the front office doesn’t really want on the books.

And honestly, even though I have nothing against TJ and like his play at times, it’s time for his tenure as a Pacer to be over. It was an OK attempt at an experiment (even if I still think they could have done better for JO than TJ, Rasho and Hibbert), but the experiment has run its course.

Really, a day that brings in Collison and Posey and shows the door to both Troy and TJ might be better than one that brings in Collison and Posey and only shows Troy the door.

Equilibrium by subtraction … or something.

UPDATE: Mike Wells is reporting that the Pacers are offering a laughably low buyout figure:

Pacers want Ford to take $5 million in the buyout, according to a source.

Unsurprisingly — if that’s an honest number that Larry Bird thinks he can get TJ to agree with — Stacy Paetz is reporting that TJ has no interest in a buyout.

Indiana tried to add T.J. Ford to the deal, according to a source. Ford not interested in buyout from Pacers

Wells’ sources are saying the same:

T.J. Ford says he’s not interested in taking a buyout from the Pacers.

The saga continues …

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Given that the Pacers have officially signed Lance Stephenson, who they think can run the offense, and there are reports that the front office still can’t find any takers for TJ Ford, Indiana’s desperate need for a point guard may not be as great today as it was back when Earl Watson was leaving in free agency and AJ Price was fracturing his patella playing charity basketball.

And since they have 14 players under contract already and might give Magnum Rolle the final roster spot, there may have to be a trade before the Pacers even have room to bolster the PG spot through free agency.

BUT … if they do want to add another PG, they probably should do it soon. Because, as Sham Sports points out in this fantastic post on what free agents are still out there, there isn’t a lot out there.

Here’s the full list of PGs:

  • Earl Watson
  • Anthony Johnson
  • Chucky Atkins
  • Cedric Jackson
  • White Chocalate (who has sweet negative sideburns)
  • Bobby Brown
  • Chris Quinn
  • Earl Boykins
  • Mustaka Shakur
  • Acie Law
  • Antonio Daniels
  • Travis Diener
  • Eddie House
  • Jamaal Tinsley
  • Marcus Williams
  • Rafer Alston
  • Brevin Knight
  • Jason Hart
  • Lester Hudson
  • Tweety Carter
  • Sherron Collins
  • Patty Mills
  • Mike James
  • Marko Jaric
  • Šarūnas Jasikevičius
  • John Lucas III
  • Jerome Randle
  • John Scheyer

First of all, the Pacers pathetic PG situation is best summed up by the fact that this list includes a full five players who have received paychecks from the team in the past few years (and, of course, one who is still receiving them. Don’t spend it all in one place, Jamaal.). It also includes one guy that I’m pretty sure Sham made up (no way Tweety Carter is an actual, living human being), one guy who has never before dribbled a basketball (Eddie House only catches and shoots … he also signed with Miami), one guy who I’m pretty sure is dead (Brevin Knight) and several guys who will likely never play more than 20 games in the NBA.

So … Presuming the team wouldn’t bring back Earl Watson, I’m not sure any of these guys are worth the time. Acie Law, Earl Boykins and maybe Rafer (I like the guy for God knows what reason) are the only three names that inspire even a half-hearted “meh.” The rest are straight “no thanks.” (Rafer is too, really, since it would pretty much be acquiring another TJ Ford.) Sherron Collins might be worth a look, I guess.

Time to call some GMs about Troy Murphy.

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Paul George

The Pacers entered the night desperately in need of a point guard.  They left the night in pretty much the same shape.

Unable to complete a deal to land a point guard, the Pacers did pretty much as we said they’d do in this situation: drafted Paul George.  Though I would have liked filling that gaping hole at the point much better, I do like this pick.

George looks like a player who is ready to contribute offensively almost immediately, though it’s not entirely clear what position he’ll play.  Defensively, he needs to improve his mechanics and grow into his body, but he has the tools to be a special player at this level.  Maybe not this season, but down the road, he could be a force defensively on the wing.

This pick — really all of these picks — run somewhat counter to the Pacers’ recent history of drafting 4-year players from major programs.  Where Tyler Hansbrough, Brandon Rush, and Roy Hibbert all were reputed to be low risk, low reward players, George is certainly not that.  Here’s what DraftExpress’ Jonathan Givony tweeted in response to the Pacers’ selection:

Indiana finally grew a pair & stopped hitting singles. I begged my guy there to swing for the fences for once. That’s exactly what they did.

With their second pick (#40), the Pacers took an even bigger chance, selecting Lance Stephenson.  A solidly-built, 6-5 shooting guard from Cincinnati, Stephenson represents something of a baffling pick, to me.

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First, I’m not sure why they’d add another wing.  Second, Stephenson definitely is not the “milk drinker” type.  He was a top prospect a year ago coming out of high school — rated ahead of Wall, Cousins, and Favors by some scouting services — but had a somewhat lackluster freshman year.  He has a reputation of being a somewhat selfish player, and he has some red flags off the court.  This is a guy with a ton of talent, but almost as much baggage.   I’m not sure how he’ll work out coming into a pretty weak locker room in Indianapolis — at least from a player leadership standpoint.

Still, to be totally honest, I haven’t seen anywhere near enough to make a complete judgment.  Also, it seems that he did largely have his act together at UC — though his shot selection still leaves much to be desired.

So, those are the two wings.  The prayer comes in the form of Magnum Rolle — a fantastic name that comes attached to a skinny, 24-year old 6-10 power forward from Louisiana Tech.  The Pacers actually drafted Ryan Reid at #57 — who I suspect doesn’t really exist after trying to research him quickly — but traded Reid, along with cash, to Oklahoma City for Rolle, who had been taken with the 51st pick.

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Magnum looks like a quick, athletic shot blocker that could play well next to Hibbert — if he develops quite a bit.  He won’t ever be a banger, but he could be a decent weakside shot blocker.

The Christmas Wish

I had really wanted to see some clear signal of the direction Bird wants to take the Pacers.  Unfortunately, I’m still scratching my head a bit.  The Pacers have no point guard, and when asked about it, Bird simply said they’d work on it this summer.  From that perspective, I found draft night somewhat unsatisfying.

However, I do like the Paul George pick quite a bit.  Also, my more cautious angels are telling me not to confuse activity with accomplishment.  There is still a lot of summer left, so I’m sure there are still plenty of moves yet to be made.  Still, there’s not a lot here for Pacer fans to really embrace as bold steps forward.

Scuttlebutt

There were a bazillion rumors going on over the last few days, and it seems clear that none really came to fruition.  However, these three were interesting:

  • Flirting with Thunder
    One of the most persistent rumors over the last day was that the Oklahoma City Thunder was trying to acquire the #10 pick.  Probably my favorite scenario was getting back Eric Maynor, the #18, and the #21 picks in return for the #10 pick and filler.  It seems now that this was never a real possibility, but it sure sounded good at the time.  OKC ended up trading the #21 & #26 picks to New Orleans in return for the #11 (Cole Aldrich).  They also provided New Orleans with some much needed cap relief by taking back Morris Peterson and his contract.  Supposedly, the Pacers turned down a similar offer, where OKC would take T.J. Ford’s contract off our hands.  As tempting financially as that is, I think I’d rather roll the dice with Paul George.
  • Danny in Danger?
    A rumor popped up shortly before the draft that had the Pacers sending Danny Granger & the #10 to New Jersey in exchange for Devin Harris, Yi Jianlian, and the #3 — which the Pacers would use on Derrick Favors.  The deal didn’t seem to make a lot of sense for either team, to me, and Larry Bird vehemently denied any such deal.  Still, plenty of true things have been vehemently denied, so I’m not real sure what to make of that.  Right now, I’ll just decide to be glad it didn’t happen, and move on.
  • Bobcat Deal Revisited?
    After the selection of Lance Stephenson, I had tweeted that I thought the Pacers might revisit a rumored deal with Charlotte, sending T.J. Ford and Brandon Rush out for a package that might included Raymond Felton as the solution at the point.  I don’t know how feasible it is, and more importantly, I don’t know how desirable it would be.  However, it is interesting in light of this little twitter exchange Brandon Rush as the Pacers picked:

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There’s little reason to believe that Brandon is aware of any imminent deal, but the Pacers now have six wings (Granger, Rush, Dunleavy, D Jones, George, and Stephenson), seven bigs (Hibbert, Murphy, Foster, Hansbrough, McRoberts, S Jones, and Rolle) to go with basically zero functional point guards.  It seems only reasonable that something has to give.  Doesn’t it?

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So, perhaps we should rethink that left turn at Albuquerque.

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