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Orien Greene and the Quest for Redemption

by Jared Wade on December 16, 2010 at 4:08 pm · 0 comments

Henry Abbott of TrueHoop wrote a fantastic piece yesterday about Orien Greene, a one-time Pacer who has become a journeyman throughout various professional basketball leagues on multiple continents. The one league he wants to play in is the NBA of course. But due to some immaturity in his younger days, he sits on the outside looking in.

He might have enough talent to be a rotation player in the the association, but he unfortunately doesn’t have enough talent to make GMs who have heard about his negative side take a chance. At least not yet.

at age 28 Greene continues to deliver elite defense for the D-League’s Utah Flash, to go with — as of today — 23 points, five rebounds, five assists and two steals while making 48 percent of his 3-pointers, and 52 percent of all field goals.

How is a guy like this not in the NBA?

Ask NBA front offices and you’ll hear that he’s a perfectly good player, but something of a knucklehead; Near the end of that rookie year he was pulled over going close to 100 miles an hour in suburban Boston, for instance. There have been drug test issues.

Ask Greene — who has played briefly for the Pacers and Kings, as well as in New Zealand, Jerusalem, Amsterdam and Orem, Utah since leaving the Celtics — and he’ll tell you the same thing.

“The drug test. That night in Boston. Everything. … I would have done a lot of things different. If not for those, maybe I wouldn’t be at this point right now,” he explains. “That’s the thing: I wish that I would have been a little bit more professional when I was in the league.”

That’s his past.

This was his wake-up call.

So Venezuela was off, and it was back to Orem, to pack his pregnant girlfriend and his clothes and everything else into the Lexus, bound for Charlotte, North Carolina to visit friends.

Ordinarily they’d fly, but they had some time on their hands, now. “Just decided to drive,” says Greene. “Like a little road trip.”

Greene had the first shift behind the wheel, about five hours. Then his girlfriend — he doesn’t want to say her name, but calls her his “girl” even though he has a daughter now — took the wheel. She was pregnant, and worried the seatbelt on the driver side was pushing against the baby in a bad way. She took off her seat belt.

Even in April, temperatures on the high plains of Wyoming can dip well below freezing at night. Roads can get icy. Asleep in the passenger seat, Orien woke up to the nightmare.

By the time they finally came to a stop, the vehicle had rolled three times and spun at least once. “We were headed East, but by the time the car stopped, it was facing West,” says Greene.

Against all odds, he, his girlfriend and the baby were all fine.

Now, this is his hopeful future.

“I ain’t getting no younger. More guys coming out, more athletic. More a lot of stuff,” he says. “But I don’t think there’s a lot of guys in the league right now who can bring what I bring. I’m 28. Whatever. A lot of guys in the league, that I see right now, don’t really play both sides of the ball.

“Lord willing, lord willing, somebody’s going to call me and I can get back in.”

The redemption tale is as old as time. But it still works. We want guys like this to make it. It gives hope to the rest of us that, even if we screwed up in the past, the future is not yet written. We can change our lot in life and make up for the flaws of our younger, dumber selves.

Orien sounds positive and appears to be plugging away, ready to put in the work needed to prove to the world that he belongs where he knows he belongs. But if he needs a little extra encouragement, he can look to another formerly troubled Pacers after-thought who has turned his career — and perhaps his life — around.

Shawne Williams was taken 17th overall by Indiana in the 2006 Draft. His time on the court was unremarkable. He showed some flashes, but never got many minutes. Then it all fell apart when he got involved in a slew of off-the-court incidents. On another team, it’s possible that his potential may have been worth the trouble. But not in Indy. Not after all the off-court embarrassments that Ron Artest, Stephen Jackson, Jamaal Tinsley and Marquis Daniels had put the team through.

So the Pacers dumped him. He wound up in Dallas but that didn’t stick.

Then he was out of the league.

Rock bottom for Shawne Williams occurred sometime last season when he was out of work and back home in Memphis.

His young nieces and nephews wondered why their uncle, the 17th pick in the 2006 NBA Draft, was not playing NBA games on television.

“At first I didn’t even know they understood,” Williams, 24, said Monday after Knicks practice. “But after me being away, they understand more than I thought.”

But last summer he got another shot. The Knicks invited him to camp and, unexpectedly to many, kept him instead of Patrick Ewing, Jr., who was the team’s final cut despite having a name you would think would give him an advantage.

And in the small time Shawne has gotten this year, he has produced. He scored 13, 14 and 13 points in the Knicks first three games of December, hitting an impressive 10-for-12 from behind the arc while impressing his coach on the defensive end even more.

Since those three good games, he hasn’t gotten a lot of time. There just aren’t that many minutes to go around on this year’s resurgent Knicks squad. But whenever Mike D’Antoni has called his number, Williams has been ready.

Orien hopes to he is equally prepared when the call comes.

From anybody.

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Game #4 Preview: Need Win, Will Travel

by Jared Wade on November 4, 2009 at 5:20 pm · 1 comment

Indiana Pacers @ New York Knicks
Madison Square Garden
New York, New York
7:30 PM EST

Pacers vs. Wizards
1-3 Record 2-3
98.7 (26th) Offensive Rating 108.8 (10th)
106.4 (14th) Defensive Rating 108.1 (19th)
0.471 (19th) eFG% 0.494 (15th)
0.483 (13th) Opponent's eFG% 0.476 (11th)
97.8 (3rd) Pace 90.6 (24th)

Glossary: Offensive Rating | Defensive Rating | eFG% | Pace

The Pacers need a win. Badly.

There has never been a must-win game in the history of November basketball, so let’s not get carried away, but leaguewide, Indiana is joined by only New Jersey and Golden State in the winless category. More importantly, the team has looked inept on both ends of the floor.

Defensively, few people outside of the confines of Conseco Fieldhouse realistically thought the team was going to be anything better than below-average. Even offensively, it’s not like the team was a juggernaut of efficiency or anything last season — they just took a lot of shots and, thus, made a lot of shots.

But regardless of the 2008-09 team’s middling offensive talent, they certainly put points on the board. Indy’s 105.1 ppg was good for 5th best in the league (albeit at only 108.1 points per 100 possessions, which was 18th best in the NBA). Through three games this season, however, they have dropped that average down to 95.0 ppg (21st in the NBA) and an utterly embarrassing 97.9 points per 100 possessions.

A lot of this is sample size, obviously.

We’re still only talking about three games (against three 2008-09 playoff teams nonetheless) and much of the meager scoring output can be attributed to just plain old bad shooting. Let’s not let Danny Granger off the hook completely here because a true upper echelon basketball player would put the ball on the deck and get to the hoop/foul line when he is struggling, but Danny has missed a ton of threes that he normally makes. At 3/13 and 2/10 from behind the arc the last two games, sure, he’s taking to many threes. But three-point shooting is his primary weapon out there.

Fortunately, the Knicks have been fairly bad themselves so far in the early goings. Aside from Danilo Gallinari (who leads the NBA in three-point makes and takes) shooting an eye-popping 45.2% from three and David Lee doing all the David Lee stuff he does while posting a Shaq-in-his-primesque 62.8% from the field, there’s not a ton for Coach D’Antoni to get excited about.

Still, I haven’t personally seen much of the Knicks yet this year aside from the opening night blow-out they received from the Heat. So for a little more perspective on what the Pacers can expect this evening, I reached out to Mike Kurylo of KnickerBlogger fame. He’s one of the better stat-oriented guys when it comes to discussing the league at large and knows Indy’s New York rivals as well as anyone.

Here’s what he has to say. Per usual, I brought the Qs, Mike dropped the As.

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The Knicks  are 1-3 after getting blown out by Miami and Philly, dropping a close one to Charlotte and, most recently, beating up on Chris Paul and the Hornets. How has the team looked overall and what prompted that 40-point fourth quarter outburst that help you take down New Orleans?

Overall the Knicks have looked poor. In each of the first three games they’ve had 20+ point deficits. One of the changes against New Orleans was to insert Gallinari into the lineup. His hot three-point shooting opened the inside up for David Lee and Chris Duhon to run the pick & roll. In the first three games, teams were able to collapse in the middle, which made the team more one dimensional. I documented this on my blog today, showing how opponents are giving the Knicks the outside shot (namely Wilson Chandler) in lieu of letting them score in the paint.

Much like last year, Coach D’Antoni has his boys chucking threes and putting up points. Why the terrible 28.8% on threes? Is it just missing open looks like the Pacers 27.0%? Or something else? The personnel is just about the same, and Danilo Gallinari, who is leading the NBA in attempts, has hit 45% of his shots from behind the arc?

The team has had some open looks, but haven’t been able to get them to fall. Another problem is a lack of a true shooting guard. Wilson Chandler is not a strong outside shooter. Meanwhile, Larry Hughes and Nate Robinson are more effective as slashers. New York runs an offense that relies on shooting as one main component, and they lack a shooting guard.

What’s up with Nate Robinson? His numbers are gross?

Nate really hasn’t seen a lot of minutes — he’s just a tad above Jared Jeffries in minutes per game. I think he’ll be his normal productive self once he gets back from injury and once he sees some real court time.

How are the rest of the guys looking? Our old friend Al Harrington had 42 the other night but has been pretty bad otherwise. Wilson Chandler is shooting badly as well. Other than David Lee and Danilo is there anyone else who has been playing well that Pacer fans should be worried about tonight?

Al Harrington scores, but doesn’t contribute much else. Danilo Gallinari looks pretty good. Not only is he lighting it up from outside, but he’s shown good court vision and some ability to take his guy off the dribble — although I expect him to be inconsistent at this young age. David is great at scoring in the paint and grabbing rebounds but has been pretty bad defensively. Darko has shown good passing in the half court set, but his defense at the 5 is less than advertised, and he hasn’t gotten a lot of burn. Larry Hughes is playing out of his mind, but you know that has to stop. And be prepared for the Jared Jeffries three-point onslaught!

Looking at the defensive stats, the Knicks are currently 28th in defensive efficiency while the Pacers are 26th. Any predictions on final score? Will there be stop all night?

No prediction, but I don’t expect a lot of defense from either team.

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