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		<title>Why Do the Pacers Care?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Donahue</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s the deal: I know a large portion of the Pacer fan base has decided that Coach Jim O&#8217;Brien is the anti-christ, but I think he&#8217;s OK. Solid, not great. I do think he panicked when things went bad, however, futzing around with the lineup way too much. This probably cost the team a few [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the deal: I know a large portion of the Pacer fan base has decided that Coach Jim O&#8217;Brien is the anti-christ, but I think he&#8217;s OK. Solid, not great. I do think he  panicked when things went bad, however, futzing around with the lineup way too  much. This probably cost the team a few wins (well, maybe a couple, who  knows?), and I think it at least created too much uncertainty. There has been speculation dating back to even December that he lost the team, with direct comments coming from drive-by guys like Bob Kravitz and Kelly Dwyer, which are then repeated when national websites talk about coaching hot  seats and the like.</p>
<p>In any case, though I have yet to see a definitive statement from what I consider a reliable inside source, it does seem  (or at least, <em>did </em>seem) reasonable to me that the team has tuned out O&#8217;Brien. I also think that  O&#8217;Brien should be fired at season&#8217;s end.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m generally hesitant to  fire coaches unless one of two situations exist:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">1. You have a better option in mind and pretty much lined up.<br />
2. You simply don&#8217;t think it can get any worse.</p>
<p>In this case, I would also set a higher bar because of (a) the  financial implications of paying two coaches given the team&#8217;s current  situation, and (b) I cannot for the life of me think of any major name  that would take this job unless the Pacers just paid through the nose (and we  won&#8217;t do that).</p>
<p>To be honest, I know for sure that condition #1 doesn&#8217;t exist, and I&#8217;m far from convinced that condition #2 exists. Still, I would let O&#8217;Brien go. He really has done a poor  job this year (after two good years), and I think he responded very poorly when things got tough. I think things will be tough again next year, and I believe that the  relationship with the players is used up. Time for a new voice, so to speak.</p>
<p>But&#8230;</p>
<p>They have been playing much better lately. Yes, with two wins against Detroit and another against Washington, the schedule has not been tough. But they also beat both Utah and Oklahoma City. And more than that, they have been playing better at both ends of the floor. They&#8217;re executing the offense more coherently, and they&#8217;ve been more  aggressive defensively. They&#8217;ve been more enthusiastic and more cohesive. During the Washington game last week, Slick Leonard was trying to explain the Pacers recent play, and he finally stammered, &#8220;They&#8217;re &#8230; just &#8230; playin&#8217; better together.&#8221;</p>
<p>There was an almost audible shrug in his voice.</p>
<p>But&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to just write that off as playing against teams that don&#8217;t  care, are tanking or are looking past them. Even if that&#8217;s true, my question is, &#8220;Why do the  Pacers care?&#8221; Or, put another way, &#8220;Why are they still playing with  effort for O&#8217;Brien?&#8221; More pointedly, why do they actually seem to be  playing more together and having more fun than they have all season? Why are we seeing more evidence of players being good teammates, like  the way random guys like Murph and Watson are going out of their way to  help and support guys like Brandon Rush and Roy Hibbert? Why are we suddenly seeing the nasty Danny that we came to expect last year? Why is Danny, arguably the only player on the team with a vested interest in the Pacers landing a top draft pick, suddenly playing better defense than he has in two years?</p>
<p>I mean, this is a team that, for all intents and purposes, looked  like they were all heading their separate ways for most of the season.  They largely seemed unhappy, occasionally surly and selfish just a few  weeks ago, and now they actually look like a team. Still not a very  good one, but an actual team.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s something Jared tweeted Tuesday night:</p>
<blockquote><p>@8pts9secs Solo on  the floor forcing a jump. Can&#8217;t say these dudes ain&#8217;t trying. Can say  they aren&#8217;t good, but can&#8217;t say they aint trying.</p></blockquote>
<p>These guys  spent two-thirds of the season rolling over and dying at the first sign  of trouble, and <em>now</em> they&#8217;re suddenly resilient?</p>
<p>As I type this, it frustrates me that I just can&#8217;t casually give the  answer that I really want to give: They&#8217;re doing it, because they&#8217;re  good guys, and that&#8217;s what they were taught, and it&#8217;s the right thing to  do. If you put on the uniform, you back your teammates and you try to  win the games, regardless of their import.  Hell, I&#8217;m sure my father would be baffled as to why I would even expect less effort. Baffled, and probably a little sad.</p>
<p>But beyond my expectations for poor effort down the stretch based on the way these players have played for  most of the season, rolling over is actually understandable (though not  necessarily admirable) given the futility they have all slogged through.  I  mean, it&#8217;s been miserable for fans; it&#8217;s gotta be worse for the  players.</p>
<p>Look at the Sixers, Pistons, Clippers and Wizards. You watch those teams, and  you seem to see players who have just completely checked out .</p>
<p>Why haven&#8217;t  these guys? Why aren&#8217;t they mailing it in, particularly if O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s gone stale on them? Why, after a  season of crap, do they look like they&#8217;re ready to go now?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a huge Indiana Hoosiers fan, and I remember the last few years under Knight.   They would start out strong, blowing through the preseason schedule before taking an early Big Ten lead.  About midway through the Big Ten  season, they would have a tough game against one of the other league  leaders, and they&#8217;d lose.  From there, it would be a downhill spiral,  and by the time the NCAA&#8217;s came around, it was painfully obvious that  the players just wanted the season to be over.  This is the natural  result of a miserable working situation. It&#8217;s the Friday afternoon  after a deadline on a shi**y work week.  You may sit there until the clock says 5:00 pm, but  you aren&#8217;t going to get anything done.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t these guys have the thousand-yard stare?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s absolutely true that these wins mean almost nothing in the grand  scheme of things. It&#8217;s also true that a higher pick is better  than a lower pick, and this activity could be reasonably argued as  short-sighted.</p>
<p>Look, I really don&#8217;t want to get into tanking. I am always in danger of violating some  corollary of Godwin&#8217;s law when talking about tanking, because I  unequivocally believe in what I said earlier: If you put on the  uniform, you back your teammates, and you try to win the games,  regardless of their import. I hold the coaching staff and the  front office to that standard, as well. I am acutely aware of the difference in value between a pick in the top 5 and a pick in the top 10, and I am comfortable with the &#8220;price&#8221; of winning &#8220;meaningless&#8221; games.</p>
<p>But, while tanking may be the smart, expedient, or most beneficial  thing, why is this team all of a sudden doing what I consider to be the  right thing (by playing together and playing to win)?</p>
<p>Secondary to that, why did it take this long?</p>
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