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Troy Murphy

On Wednesday afternoon, the Houston Rockets, New Orleans Hornets, Indiana Pacers, and New Jersey Nets pulled off a four-team blockbuster, swapping several key contributors.

Rahat Huq of Red94, Ryan Schwan of Hornets247, Sebastian Pruiti of Nets are Scorching and I all got together to provide assessments of the outgoing players from their respective ballclubs.

Rahat Huq of Red94 on Trevor Ariza

I’ve written a comprehensive series of essays on Trevor Ariza entitled ‘Assessing Ariza,’ evaluating his strengths, weaknesses, and player potential.  (Parts 1, 2, and 3)

In short, he’s an ideal role-player who thrives off the ball, spotting up or using his superior athleticism to slash to the basket.  Now having the benefit of playing next to Chris Paul, I expect Ariza to return to form from his playoff run with the Lakers – he really took off after the acquisition of Kevin Martin; Ariza is at his best playing next to dominant players.

If you’re hoping Trevor will grow into his physical gifts and emerge as a primary option, you’re going to be disappointed.  While a capable ball-handler against light pressure, he doesn’t have the handles to create for himself off the dribble.  He also has extremely poor footwork and body control.  Even worse, Ariza has an oddly inflated sense of entitlement–possibly due to his Lakers pedigree–leading him to force bad shots and make poor decisions; Ariza struggles when needing to think on the basketball court.

The issue of Ariza’s defense is a contentious one.  His reputation precedes him, but his is a reckless, instinctual approach, garnering him gaudy steals totals but often leaving his teammates scrambling to rotate after blown coverage.  Still, this manner can be conducive to forcing tempo if that’s your cup of tea.

All in all, assuming expectations remain reasonable, I think the Hornets will be very pleased next year with Trevor Ariza.  While his struggles with the Rockets are well documented, playing next to Chris Paul is a situation tailor-made for a player of Trevor’s skillset and abilities – in returning to his former role with the Lakers (next to a superstar guard), I think Trevor will really thrive.

Ryan Schwan of Hornets247 on Darren Collison

After watching him for a season, I’m comfortable claiming that Darren Collison is the proud owner of the “fastest man in the NBA” title.   When he played, the Hornets pace increased by five possessions, as he exploded up court every chance he could.  Considering the heavy-footed players he was dragging with him up the court, it is a pretty amazing feat.

Collison started off his rookie season pretty rough, shooting poorly from deep, and struggling valiantly to figure out how to score over the faster, taller athletes he met in the paint.  In fact, for the first month, a pick and roll run by Collison typically had very little going for it.  That all changed, however, when Chris Paul went down.  Given long minutes, constant coaching by Paul, and confidence that never seemed to waver, Collison started deploying a stutter step and mid-range pull up jumper that made him deadly on the pick and roll by the end of February.  His long-range shot, which was amazing in college, began to settle in, and soon he was deadly from three, both as a spot-up shooter, and as a guy who could pull up off the dribble and knock it down.

As a passer, Collison is excellent in the open court, solid at the pick and roll, but tends to struggle in the pick and pop.  He’s great at driving into the paint and laying the ball off to a big man for a dunk or finding the roller, but when he has to find the open men on the perimeter, he still can get into trouble.  As a result, though he gets a lot of assists, he also gets a lot of turnovers.  He also has the tendency to be called for a carry once or twice a game, though that was fading by the end of last season.

Defensively is where Collison has his biggest problems.  He makes Allen Iverson look fat – and unlike mighty mouse Chris Paul, he’s also not physically strong at all.  That leaves him to be exploited terribly in post ups, and because of his lightness, a good screen or series of screens can take him out the picture on defense despite his recovery speed.

As a team leader, Collison was remarkable.  He was barking commands to veterans like Okafor and David West from the start of the season.  On more than one occasion I saw him get on teammates for not being where they were supposed to be.  He’s intelligent, knows how to get a team into its offense, and it shows.  He’s also cold-blooded.  He had two game-winning shots last season, and another three that put a nail in a run the other team was making to come back.  He doesn’t shy from that big shot – and he has a decent track record of making it.

In the end, I feel Collison will be an exciting-as-hell, explosive scorer in the mold of Tony Parker, and most nights will outscore his opponent.  At the same time, I’d also expect his opponent to regularly score more than is usual.

Sebastian Pruiti of Nets are Scorching on Courtney Lee

Courtney Lee is a guy I like and with Avery Johnson coming to New Jersey, I thought he was the perfect Avery Johnson guy.  He shoots the three ok (last years numbers are too low for his shooting ability in my honest opinion), he can penetrate and get out and run, but where he is most valuable is on the defensive end.  Courtney is both a very good one on one and team defender, and he works very hard on that end.  Lee doesn’t have a high ceiling  (and that is why I suspect that the Nets held onto Terrence Williams), and the player he is now is the player he will be years from now.  That’s not a bad thing, but there is very little room for him to grow.

Me on Troy Murphy

Offensively: The short answer is that Murph is a 6’11″ Steve Kerr.  He is an extremely efficient scorer, and serves as a safety valve for the offense.  I can see him being a very nice player with your personnel, offensively, as he is a low-usage guy.  The Pacers use him to float at the top of the key, and he took all but like 10 of his three’s from the arc (very few corner threes).  He has no post game to speak of, and he’s a solid passer, but not a great high post guy.

He does a good job of reading his defender, and is very good at reading the closeout, putting the ball on the floor and finishing at the rim.  He doesn’t get many offensive rebounds because of (a) where he plays and (b) his lack of footspeed, but could get more if he played closer to the basket.  However, I think you’d be an absolute fool to play him — offensively — in any other way than the way O’Brien used him.  Look at his eFG and TS numbers the last three years under Obie vs. his time in GS.  He plays completely within his skill set (almost to a fault), and I have never — never — seen a guy with better shot selection than Troy.  Very, very nice complementary shooter to have on your team.

Defensively: He is definitely a liability, and that is because he’s slow and physically weak.  He gets lots of defensive rebounds, but he doesn’t really control the glass the way most guys who pull down the volume of boards he gets.  He is not a block out guy, but has a good nose for the ball.  One-on-one he will never be better than, well, bad, but he can learn and will follow team defensive concepts.  In other words, if the opponent decides to target him, then he’ll get beaten, but he won’t blow defensive team schemes.  Overall, your team’s defensive performance will drag when he’s on the floor.

Lockerroom and Fit: He appears likable enough, but not really a presence.  Seems to get along with everybody well enough.  There were rumors last year that he wasn’t happy about Hansbrough eating into his playing time, but they were way external to the organization and I never believed them.  As far as fitting with your big guys, he should be a great fit with both Lopez and Favors offensively, and probably a poor fit defensively with Lopez, but pretty good with Favors – assuming I’ve got a reasonable handle on their respective games.

Here’s the most important part – you can’t look at the 14 & 11 and think he’s that traditional double-double guy.  He is very much someone who accentuates his positives, but doesn’t improve on his negatives.  He is not a physical player, at all.  He is who he is, but that can be a good thing.  Assuming Avery doesn’t choke on his defense, I suspect he’ll love the guy because he is perhaps the most reliably consistent player I’ve seen in three-plus decades of watching the NBA.

He will hit shots, he will get some boards, and he will suck on defense.

He will score, but he is a safety valve – not a primary or secondary option.  It sounds strange, but I think coaches like that because it’s something they don’t have to worry about.  They put him out there, and work on everything else.   This is why he can have some big games and not really make a difference.  He’s kind of a like an offensive lineman.  He can have a great  individual game, but if the rest of the line sucks, it won’t matter.  At the same time, if he’s great and the rest of the line is great, nobody will notice him.

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According to Woj, TJ has played his last game as a Pacer and will soon be sent on his way — carrying a big, fat check. (h/t Pacers Digest)

The Pacers are negotiating a buyout with T.J. Ford’s agent on the $8.5 million owed the point guard this season, league sources tell Y!.

This makes sense.

With Darren Collison and James Posey incoming and only Troy Murphy outgoing in the four-team trade just completed, the Pacers would be at the 15-man roster maximum. The word is that they would still like to sign 2010 second round draft pick Magnum Rolle, however. Buying out TJ would give them the flexibility to still do that — or something else — and it seems as if any attempt to trade TJ for something of any value has become futile.

So better to just buy out the diminutive, inconsistent point guard rather than try to crowbar his $8.5 million expiring contract into some deal that brings back some long-term contract the front office doesn’t really want on the books.

And honestly, even though I have nothing against TJ and like his play at times, it’s time for his tenure as a Pacer to be over. It was an OK attempt at an experiment (even if I still think they could have done better for JO than TJ, Rasho and Hibbert), but the experiment has run its course.

Really, a day that brings in Collison and Posey and shows the door to both Troy and TJ might be better than one that brings in Collison and Posey and only shows Troy the door.

Equilibrium by subtraction … or something.

UPDATE: Mike Wells is reporting that the Pacers are offering a laughably low buyout figure:

Pacers want Ford to take $5 million in the buyout, according to a source.

Unsurprisingly — if that’s an honest number that Larry Bird thinks he can get TJ to agree with — Stacy Paetz is reporting that TJ has no interest in a buyout.

Indiana tried to add T.J. Ford to the deal, according to a source. Ford not interested in buyout from Pacers

Wells’ sources are saying the same:

T.J. Ford says he’s not interested in taking a buyout from the Pacers.

The saga continues …

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Game #82 Recap: Yeah, About That

by Tim Donahue on April 15, 2010 at 12:05 pm · 3 comments

Washington Wizards 98 – Indiana Pacers 97

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In the last recap, I wrote this:

So do we wad up the previous 17 games and throw them in the trash?  Nope. We don’t. That all happened. It may not have been great for the franchise in terms of draft position. In fact, it almost certainly wasn’t.

But it had to have been good for these players individually — and collectively — on some level. It gave them some idea that they are (OK, at least some of them are) legitimate NBA players. And while last night’s game was an obvious reminder that they aren’t great NBA players, hey, at least it wasn’t the last game of the season.

They will have one more opportunity to wash that terrible taste out of their mouths and go into the Summer with some semblance of confidence that this team, while by no means good, may not be as bad as they were for the first four months of the season.

That doesn’t say a lot, no … But it does say something.

Bring on the Wizards.

I may have been wrong about all or part of that.

Tombstone

This was fun. Let’s do this again next year.

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Orlando Magic 118 – Indiana Pacers 98

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It seems to me that the low point of this season occurred during the four-game West Coast swing at the beginning of March.  The road trip started with twin 23-point losses to the Lakers and the Blazers, then finished up with a pair of eight-point losses to the Nuggs and Suns.  While the Suns game was hotly contested (though a little overly fake-tough-guy-macho, in my opinion),  the final score on the Nuggets game was only that close because of a 10-0 Pacer run late in the fourth, long after the Nuggets stopped giving a tinker’s damn (whatever the hell that is).

I’m sure that, if asked to pick a specific moment when this season reached rock bottom, most would agree that it came in the post-game interview after the loss to the Lakers.  When asked to comment on Josh McRoberts’ performance (then a career high), Pacer Coach Jim O’Brien uttered his now infamous “irrelevant” response.  To some, this was the straw that broke the camel’s back with O’Brien, causing a huge outflow of animosity and leaving Pacers Nation with a continuing flow of snarky “irrelevant” jokes of the same quantity (and same general quality) of “you are the weakest link” and “you are voted off the island” quips of years past.

It was, in fact, a stupid thing for O’Brien to say.  It was pointless, and more than a little petty.  Of course, it was also 100% accurate, but I don’t think that makes it any less of a dick move.

So, the Pacers trudged home from that trip a whopping 23 games below .500, the furthest under water (in terms of games) the franchise had been since February of 1989.  They came home in what looked like total disarray, with a team pulling in 14 different directions.  It seemed almost without question that the coach had lost the team, and, quite possibly, the players had lost themselves.

Then, for reasons I don’t fully understand, they found themselves.  Coming into last night’s game, the Pacers had won 12 of the 17 games since that trip, including 10 of the last 12.  Granted, it was no murderer’s row.  Eleven of the 17 games (and 10 of the 12 wins) came at home.  One of the road wins came at Detroit, who is 99 different kinds of crap.  The other came at Cleveland, a team that was resting so many players that they started a video tech guy, and the first player off the bench was actually one cheerleader on another cheerleader’s shoulders wearing a Cavs uniform and a trench coat.

Still, there was clearly progress made.  There were impressive (almost dominating) wins against Oklahoma City and Utah, both of which are currently regretting their losses in an insanely tight Western Conference race.  There was a good solid win against Charlotte, also involved in playoff race.  The once-incompetent offense, averaging 101.9 per 100 prior to this stretch, was now clocking along at 112.3 per 100.

There were some very good things to be seen from some of the players.

Consider the following:

  • Danny Granger playing like the guy we expected coming into the season.  After averaging 23.1 points on a very disappointing .491 eFG% through March 6th, Danny averaged 28.3 points on .539 eFG% over his next 15 outings.
  • Troy Murphy had respectable numbers coming into this stretch, with 13.8 points and 9.8 rebounds on .542 eFG%, but his core numbers were stratospheric over this stretch.  His scoring jumped to 18.1 points on a gaudy .598 eFG%, while his rebounding numbers grew to 12.1 per night.  More importantly, the team performed better with him on the floor.  Over the first 63 games of the season, Troy’s regular +/- was -10.4 per 48 minutes, by far the worst of the core players.  The team was a net 12.2 points per 100 possessions worse with him on the floor than when he was off the floor.  During this stretch, his regular +/- of +8.9 was the best of the core players, and the team was a net 9.4 points per 100 better with him on the floor.
  • Earl Watson finally took control of the point guard position and stabilized it.  His assists jumped from 4.5 per night to 7.1, and the team scored 114 points per 100 possessions with him on the floor.
  • A.J. Price and Josh McRoberts finally got some consistent minutes and both performed admirably.  Price averaged almost 18 minutes a night after T. J. Ford went down with a groin injury, while McRoberts logged 15 minutes per in his role as first big off the bench.  Price was more consistent, as his role was more defined.  He showed some good things, but also showed that he has some trouble with quicker guards.  Early in the stretch, it looked like McBob might alternate with Solomon Jones as that first big off the bench, but he pretty much got control of the minutes after a few games.  On a team pretty much devoid of athleticism, Josh’s hops and occasionally spectacular plays provided some of the more memorable moments of a forgettable season.

Then There Was Last Night

Last night was pretty much a flashback to the bad (and not-so) old days.  Other than a roughly five-minute stretch in the second quarter when the Pacers used a 16-2 run to cut the lead to nine, the Magic thoroughly dominated.  I don’t think anybody who watched the game would disagree that Orlando won virtually every aspect of the game.  They outshot the Pacers 48% to 41% and outrebounded them 53-37.  They took 19 more free throws than Indiana, and hit 16  more.

The Magic took their first double-digit lead at the 6:22 mark of the 1st Quarter.  Over the remaining 42:22 of game time, the lead only dipped below 10 points for 16 seconds.  The Magic held a lead of 20 points or more for 26:31 of clock time, or about 55% of the game.  Alas, this one had no alibi, it was U-G-L-Y.

Here’s the deal:  I said the Pacers found themselves. I didn’t say they found the ’96 Bulls.

Last night’s game was a reminder of what this team is, at least in terms of its limitations.

What last night reminds us of was how thin the margin of error is for this team.  It reminds us that, if Danny can’t get it going, and if Roy can’t get it going, then it’s all over but the shouting.  It reminds us that the “puncher’s chance” shooting the three gives this team can leave them flat on the canvas if all they get are swings and misses.

So do we wad up the previous 17 games and throw them in the trash?  Nope. We don’t. That all happened. It may not have been great for the franchise in terms of draft position. In fact, it almost certainly wasn’t.

But it had to have been good for these players individually — and collectively — on some level. It gave them some idea that they are (OK, at least some of them are) legitimate NBA players. And while last night’s game was an obvious reminder that they aren’t great NBA players, hey, at least it wasn’t the last game of the season.

They will have one more opportunity to wash that terrible taste out of their mouths and go into the Summer with some semblance of confidence that this team, while by no means good, may not be as bad as they were for the first four months of the season.

That doesn’t say a lot, no … But it does say something.

Bring on the Wizards.

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